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  • 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 01. 2013 13:08


Benser33

5/1/2013 PATCH NOTES <-- Link


Ship Tuning Balance and Design

I'm making this thread on behalf of the test team to take a moment to explain the various ship tuning components and other related changes that have occurred in the above patch, as well as some of the reasoning behind these changes.


The team who worked to bring this together were nyerkovic, ljsevern, Rehor, Farazelleth, BBR_InsUW, richardphat, GrieferLord and myself.

I would like to begin with what is most important, players should realize that this system is still very new and this system will be monitored closely to see the effects on the live server and there may be some changes requested in the future to correct bugs and fix any exploits or unforeseen effects.

 

Read on for information regarding many of the changes made in the v1.369 patch, as the second post of page 1 of this thread.  

 

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 02. 2013 18:29


mako089

Originally Posted by nyerkovic


The item is a boost across the board

Except for Frigates remember?  Still waiting for reasons why it wasn't applied there.

Anyone?



  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 02. 2013 20:04


V2CxBongRipz

Originally Posted by nyerkovic

And while I understand what you say about lower class ships not always being a stepping stone, there is a natural advancement from Auto to Manual aiming that has to keep going or you damage the end game experience for everyone.

Do you really understand Nyer? Because if you do why havent MN/RM/SN Low tiers been fixed yet?

 

And I have still yet to see a reason why frigates are being screwed with yet again. No one has given any valid response to this yet.

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 02. 2013 20:52


Benser33

Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz

And I have still yet to see a reason why frigates are being screwed with yet again. No one has given any valid response to this yet.

I have said, the FF FCS changes were due to an oversight of mine, I'm the one responsible and the changes will be reverted next opportunity there is.

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 02. 2013 23:00


Ruza_CZ

Originally Posted by Rehor

In attempting to reply to me, neither of you actually hit the topic.

Rehor please read it is to THE toppic. The patch put banance on ONLYT ONE BB5 and I SUGGEST that it KILLED one wariont of L with 120lvl crev.

 

BUT IN  your GODSIGHT you cont see this.  Plese Close yourself in some dark basement and dont speakt to your deth on all wabs in world.

This patch means RIP AW L2.

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 03. 2013 00:10


Kilaenots

Originally Posted by Benser33

Tbh, a lot of what you say is fair, but it wasn't my decision, I'm only really offering some guesswork. I displayed the reasons given to us, cos we knew people would like to see an actual reason from SDE. Nothing more I can contribute really.

Remeber that I maybe replying to you but it is not really aimed at you. I understand that this is an SDE decision, unfortunately it is a poor decision in my opinion because this was a great opportunity to remove credits from the game. Although you (the test team) may be able to put such suggestions forward perhaps with a little more refinement from the experience within the test team.

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 03. 2013 00:17


Arcaniz

Originally Posted by Ruza_CZ

 

This patch means RIP AW L2.



And what is bad about that?

For AW you can drive a L1 or a QV so I don't see your point.

Some experts even say standard L2's are alot better with the proper driving ofc.

And furthermore, these changes are not even completed yet. 

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 03. 2013 01:31


Ruza_CZ

Originally Posted by Arcaniz

Originally Posted by Ruza_CZ

 

This patch means RIP AW L2.



And what is bad about that?

For AW you can drive a L1 or a QV so I don't see your point.

Some experts even say standard L2's are alot better with the proper driving ofc.

And furthermore, these changes are not even completed yet. 

This mean that improvment in L2 with displacement is done and thy chage rest of things, range demage ROF.

I will be glat to be suprise by addig some space to fit 9.5+120lvl crev+0.2belt +1bulge.

Thim may mean to kill AW version much more. Because this improvment was declared as a make a better. I cant image how will look dereasing. This is only guest.

Look what disater make from UK and IJN SS5, thy are most time useeles. When thy be albe to put useless End ss why put to Useless Top end AW ship of AW nation.

Now to have AW L2 you can put on it only 13 sailors (nice kill nation trait +1 support). Or put 14 sailors but insufficient amout of armor (kill the other nation trait).

For example how will look to be able only put H39 guns on 120lvl H44, or left some Ammo or sailor in hrabor. This H44 will be useless. And thhis happened to L2.

This is reaction that thay saied We iprove ability L2 to get 120lvl crev.

And answver is Yes and NO.

SW is slightly better then it was.Bbut AW is now dead with 120lvl.

Yes still UK have 3 otrhe BB to be AW but thy have 5 (KGV, POW,L1,L2,QV). And why not to kill rest of three ? Many people will thing that thy are overpovered, but thy forgot something. They are also 10M more expensive. For BB4 they are 8times more expensive then rest and it is not eaven 2times better.

After that Dominance of HE noob come.

From my poit of view 5inch on belt and 3 inch on deck may nearly kill all HE ammo include 20' Amgi shell. And primary use AP shell against Capital ship. (CL2+ To BB6)

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 03. 2013 02:24


EricIdle

Originally Posted by Ruza_CZ

Rehor please read it is to THE toppic. The patch put banance on ONLYT ONE BB5 and I SUGGEST that it KILLED one wariont of L with 120lvl crev.

 

BUT IN  your GODSIGHT you cont see this.  Plese Close yourself in some dark basement and dont speakt to your deth on all wabs in world.

This patch means RIP AW L2.

 

All these over-excited people...

 

If an AW L2 with 9.5" deck is so important to you and your lvl 120 crew, you have other possibilities to achieve that.

0.1" of deck weighs 164 tons on an L2. Take off around 20 rookies of each of your crew members to save that weight. There you are. Not worth getting into a froth about this, is it?

 

Shouting is easier than thinking?

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 03. 2013 02:34


jokojoko

quote (partial) Benser33

The team who worked to bring this together were nyerkovic, ljsevern, Rehor, Farazelleth, BBR_InsUW, richardphat, GreiferLord and myself.

unquote

thank you for this information....

cheers
+++

  • Re : 5/1/13 Official Test Team Patch Overview

    05. 03. 2013 04:11


Ruza_CZ

Originally Posted by EricIdle

Originally Posted by Ruza_CZ

Rehor please read it is to THE toppic. The patch put banance on ONLYT ONE BB5 and I SUGGEST that it KILLED one wariont of L with 120lvl crev.

 

BUT IN  your GODSIGHT you cont see this.  Plese Close yourself in some dark basement and dont speakt to your deth on all wabs in world.

This patch means RIP AW L2.

 

All these over-excited people...

 

If an AW L2 with 9.5" deck is so important to you and your lvl 120 crew, you have other possibilities to achieve that.

0.1" of deck weighs 164 tons on an L2. Take off around 20 rookies of each of your crew members to save that weight. There you are. Not worth getting into a froth about this, is it?

 

Shouting is easier than thinking?

 

Then if I remove 20 rokies per sailor THEN I AKS WHY HAVE L2 14 SLOTS WHAN I MAY TO USE ONLY 13. WHY I MUST LOOK ON EMPTY SAILOR SPACE. PLEASE TELL ME HOW MANY ROKIES YOU NEED TO REMOVE FOR OTHER BB5 SETUPS ?

I THING NONE. THEN WHY ONLY ONE AW BB5 MUST ?

And dot forget all other BB5 cost only 4.5M, not 14.5M.

OR I Can remove all Rokies Expert an VETS to put even more armor. But I thing this is not standart AW setup.

If pople so hates AW why dot remove ALL armor from game, when AW BB5 is OP.(I thing it it less usefull the SW)but why lose Game variability ? (Sub will kill you in 4 torpedos).

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