interesting idea :)

Personally, I think the idea of flagging which ship defends which harbor would be a better
solution.

Open the harbor number to as many as the fleet wants to hold; so if Fleet A wants to
capture and hold all four harbors, then let them (they just have to be pretty confident
that they can divide their fleet up to defend 4 harbors). The restriction would be that
they have to allocate which ships will be used to defend each harbor; so if UK gets
attacked, only the ships that are flagged to protect the UK harbor would be able to
participate in the defense.

example: If i own:

IJN BB5
KM BB4
UK BB5
KM CV3
US SS3

The player chooses which harbor his/her ship will defend; only those ships flagged can be
used during the HA; moving will be prohibited at the time of HA; once HA is announced no
ships can be moved to the defending harbor. The fleet commander could flag a certain
harbor as their main harbor, so any unallocated ships, would default to that one (ie new
fleet members)

Some people would argue that if they split their fleets into two, they would not be able
to hold either harbor; my answer to that is, "its your choice as to which harbor you want
to hold" if you split your fleet 50-50 between two harbors, you better feel
confident to hold both of them. If not, and you lose both, -that's your fault; no one is
twisting your arm to own more than 1 harbor..or how you allocate your ships.

Players can even chat openly about their fleet attacking the UK (example) harbor, but in
reality, they will be attacking the US harbor - feeding false info) to get the defending
fleet to move more ships to the UK (assuming their own US and UK)

If you own the US harbor and keep all your BB6s there, while flagging just your extra
ships to protect your other 2 harbors (assuming you own 3), then at least other fleets
have a chance to win those 2 other harbors.

The 1 harbor limit is...well, just too limiting; 2 is not that much better; completely
open like before is not much better either, because if you can use all your ships if its
defense, then it will never change hands.


I feel this solution:

gives the fleets the option of owning as many harbors as they want.
gives other fleets a chance to win HA as well
should revitalize the HA game.
gives more depths to HA management to fleet commanders and players


In fact, if players move ships to other harbors to defend...maybe having the radioman give
you these messages so you can figure out where to attack. The higher the level of your
RM, the better then are at providing this information to you.
How to do that...hmm, haven't given it much thought yet; but maybe a low level radio man
can give you the ship movements into a harbour for the last day or two , while higher
level can give you movements for the last week....

recc'd and bumped

The limit of 2 harbours per fleet would reanimate HA's a bit

reced

On the topic of the 1 harbor per fleet rule, I'm kinda against and kinda for it. It
creates a situation for smaller fleets to be able to try and attack. On NY tho that is a
problem since all four harbors are possessed by 2 fleets, 2 harbors per fleet. So it
didn't really do anything for NY.

Really the only way for smaller fleets on NY to actually get a harbor is to have the 2
current fleets give up a harbor, I say NY because I know its a different situation on each
server. Giving away a harbor though shows that the fleets that gets it didn't really earn
it and it basically shafts the previous owner.

There really isn't a good way to remedy this situation, the only good way to get people
active in NF is really for them to join a fleet and have fun in it. Right now you get
people that start playing NF and don't join a fleet then they usually will stop playing
after a long grind. Then you have fleets that form up and have piss poor leadership and
the fleet usually will fall apart in several weeks.

What should be done is find a way for more fleets to be created. Have new players get
involved in a fleet and maybe lower the amount of credits for new fleets to attack a
harbor. Of course there will be difficulties, such as larger fleets are usually comprised
of more seasoned, experienced, and skilled players with higher lvl ships and crews.

So in essence, fleets, large or small, are put into a uncomfortable situation no matter if
this rule is taken off or if it stays.

I recc the harbor limit be changed to 2, more interesting.

Recommended. Players want to attack and defend both. And it is our right.

Recommended

I didnt read all posts and maybe some1 wrote it, so we were talking about it on our forum
long time ago. One idea was very interesting. If X fleet has one harbor and is going to
attack another, they need to choose which one they will hold (after HA of cours), because
they can have only one. Still u cant have 2 harbours, and still u can attack another. Its
so easy.

seriously... since when was a small fleet supposed to be winning a HA vs... lets say..
old crus fleet? on MO

atm there is a good mix of 3 strong fleets on MO.
was it different 2+years ago?
oh yes.

there was crus and big exp. clearly stronger than anything else.

kindnuz and devildog are just spamming the 2 HA topics with their ideas of gaining
stenght while doing NOTHING.
next suggestion is: defender can only have 1 cv in the room! while attacker can put
in 8 !

On MO, even if you merged 2-3 of the smaller fleets it still wouldnt have a big impact.