Good to see you had fun, HAs are fun. But what on earth are you complaining about then?
Holding a harbour is for the biggest and strongest fleets, you can't expect to hold a
harbour in a new and smaller fleet. If you want to participate just declare, attack and
have fun.

ok aide all i said was usafleet is growing and growing fast, and merc does have
BB6s, and wildsharks does too,( and you really shouldnt be cracking on another
fleets skill ) we only have 10 BB6s and contended for a HA, did we win? NO but we
gave them a fight and had a great time, and ill do it agian and agian, so even tho
someone dosent have BB6s and alot of them, dont mean they cant contend, and
have fun doing them

o.0 Usa fleet is a majorfleet on arizona SINCE WHEN
i dont think mercfleet has a single bb6
wildsharks dosnt have the skill to be competititve even though it has a few bb6
like the regalia member said they dont have the numbers but they have teh skill
flotagalega has been out of the ha game for a while
Ae needs to play together more often

On another note if u wana do that fleets that are growing in all fairness Helenistnavy
would do better at ha then unf or ae or ws or merc

maybe its time to clean the roster a little LJ

and s0l my fleet does just fine, we have no drama and everybody gets along great,
and almost everyone is very active and we weed out the inactives, so you can sit
here and judge my leadership, but I have 150 members that will disagree with you

and AZ has plenty of fleets for this one harbor rule, their bored because they choose
to be, and I dont care what anyone says

@sin no your right I dont know the situation on MO and NY, just what you say, that
you only have 3 fleets that can contend for a HA, and NY claiming the same, so thats
where that suggestion came from

all I see are problems with easy solutions, but you dont easy solutions, just 1 sided
biasness, funny when the other fleets are bored you tell them to do nfafl, and FWs
but when your bored SDE should stand up and take notice

do me a favor, heed your own words for once

I wish Jedi had 140 active members!

"first of all I havent seen a single mega back out of a HA yet, and we have seen the
harbors thus far change hands many times already, so to say the 1 harbor rule has
destroyed HAs is very far fetched"

I'm not talking about today, reread my post.

"all this is, is megas are getting bored, and instead of doing FWs and such like they
tell others to do, they try to rationalize owning only 1 harbor, too its hurting them"

yes the bigger fleets are getting bored, that's what we've all been saying. Yet they're
all eagerly participating in NFAFL, so it's clearly not FWs they're getting bored from.

"and I 100% disagree with this, I have yet to see a mega fall apart because of this
rule and wont see it in the future as well"

I never said they'd fall apart, reread my post.

"and by the way s0l most mega these days are made in weeks not years"

The future of UNF looks very promising if that's how their fleet leader sees things. Relic
did well so quickly because a lot of them had been together in Playmates.
I've told you a billion times mass recruiting does not work. I predicted in Nato back in
January that Nato was going to split because of the crappy recruiting methods. And look,
surprisingly (not) Nato split...again. Learning from your mistakes is not one of your
strong points is it?

Haven't you noticed you're the only one defending the rule here? There's a reason for that.

I don't know why I bother tbh, I know from experience that no matter how much evidence is
rubbed in your face, you will stick to your own methods. I see most of the community
agreeing to this suggestion, and 1 fleet leader disagreeing because he is butthurt his
fleet isn't among the best, 5 months after it's creation.

DD8, if you dont know anything about NYs or MOs fleets then shush about this merge idea in
your head.


It can ONLY work if if any fleet on NY can field Sixers like theres no tommorow.

first of all ramj there are alot of bigfleets on AZ jedi, orp, TT, relic,nato,UNF, usafleet
is growing fast and not to mention merc fleet and whitesharks fleet, regalia,BAPS,
argentina fleet,FG and AE should I go on? all these fleet have 140 members plus
with a wide range of bb6s and can all challange for a HA, because they dont isnt
anyones fault but there own thats 14 fleets that are HA ready, and dont declare

So AZ has the fleets to make this 1 harbor rule work, they just dont declare

not sure what the situation on MO and NY is but the way they talk its like there are
3 fleets in the entire server that can challange, if thats so merge NY and MO and
now they have 6, and drop the 2 week to declare rule, and with the merge im sure a
few more fleets will be born, and bring that total to 10 or so, so im not
understanding the argument here, get the other fleets involved, and stop saying
that there isnt enough fleets to do it because there is

im not complaing about HAs themselves, just that you ppl are getting on here saying
that there are not enough fleets to have this 1 harbor rule, and I just proved on the
AZ side of things there for sure is, so get the other fleets involved and your worries
will be over

Ever since the 1 harbor rule went into effect HA on MO died completely. Black Sun, Broken
Arrows and Jokers hold the 4 harbors and the next most powerful fleet while capable of
taking a harbor is still leaps and bounds behind the 3 megafleets. Before the rule at
least those fleets had the option to fight each other.

I dont care what you say, smaller fleets will never have a chance considering the
defending fleets all have 50+ HOF players each armed with BB6's/CV'6s.

BA alone has 80 HOF players with BB6s. Black Sun is pretty damn stacked also. Both fleets
can fill each tile game with BB6's/CV'6s and still have tons left over for the Harbor tile
in the event a scrub fleet can even make it that far. I mean its at the point now that
BB5's are "rabbit" ships ffs.


Rec'd.

dd8, who are these megafleets on AZ you talk about? If you are talking about Jedi
and ORP and FG, 3 of the 4 harbour holders, you cant possibly believe that they
were formed overnight.

UNF is actually quite a large fleet. Why is it that such a large fleet is complaining
that they dont have a chance, instead of building themselves up.

Why are you even complaining about megafleets? The megafleets that others talk
about do not even exist on AZ.

As I, and others, have mentioned before, Regalia almost took the harbour from FG.
The reason why we couldnt is simply due to lack of numbers. We couldnt field the
small ships that were needed to stop the stalling tactics of FG, such as APAs and
ASW ships. We dont have the cannon fodder that can be fielded by other fleets.
Why is it, that a small-medium sized fleet is able to compete in HA, while a larger,
newer fleet is complaining that his fleet cant compete with old, established fleets?

Hell, we hardly take part in HA. We dont complain. We play NFAFL instead.

As I have said time and time again, it doesnt matter how even you try and make the
playing field. People will still complain. Some fleets will always not be as good and
will lose. Some fleets will always be that little bit smaller and complain that its not
fair.

Size and skill has its advantages. Fleets strive to gain these advantages. Why
should SDE remove these advantages, so that people who have put in a fraction of
this effort become triumphant? This completely removes any reason for a fleet to
grow big and strong. Why put in effort and lose, when we can do nothing and win?

I say remove the 1 harbour per fleet rule. Leave HA for the big boys. Let them play
big boy games. Let them have a reason to be big and strong. Dont like this? Put in
something else besides HA, where the smaller fleets can play. When those small
fleets grow up, then they can compete in the world of big boys. There is no reason
to penalise larger fleets for becoming big and strong.