Since not many people seem to be aware of the NY situation:
Vets holds New York and Tokyo. Total Carnage holds Hamburg and London. It's been like
this for months, with one fleet occasionally briefly losing a harbor before the 1 harbor
per fleet rule was implemented.

edit: The situation is also somewhat like what Rehor describes for MO. I expect that the
only way to get a fleet capable of holding a harbor in the next six months would be to
merge the best of several lesser fleets (which isn't going to happen for obvious reasons).
We might still have two fleets holding all the harbors in 2011!

"The 1 harbour per fleet rule has no bearing at all on small fleets. You can still attack
and have fun, but you wont win."

The last thing we want is to be wasting somebody's time. I mean, on Missouri, three
fleets hold, three fleets can make a HA half-interesting, and the rest are slop and will
get jacked before they can take 10 tiles.

"Medium Sized Fleets like TT, Flota Chile etc can field a strong team and can take
harbours. Once you hit the harbour tile, its a simple 35 vs 35 battle, and most medium
sized fleets have at least 20 BB6 accounts which is more then enough to take the harbour
tile."

Beyond the harbor-holders on MO, there are a mere three fleets who can hope to get to the
harbor tile with a handful of BB6's to use there.

Calling for more more aggressive or better recruiting tactics is a farce. It will take
quite a monumental event for the Missouri situation to change.

I agree with the suggestion. Theoretically 1 fleet 1 harbour rule suits us (ORP Fleet)
well by now, but I opposed the rule since it was implemented, because as I said - it's
going to (and it did) reduce possibilities to play Harbour Assault. Face it - a small
fleet is able to fix a succesfull attack, but it's not possible for them to hold it.
I belive that a fair solution which should satisfy both sides is change of rules to 1
fleet 2 harbours. This will allow harbour owners to declare, and prevents "one fleet
harbour domination".

"all I see are problems with easy solutions, but you dont easy solutions, just 1 sided
biasness, funny when the other fleets are bored you tell them to do nfafl, and FWs
but when your bored SDE should stand up and take notice"

Find a post where I mention FWs. All Im saying is that you no nothing of the situation on
either servers and yet think your "solution" would work. As far as I can tell, no fleet on
NY can field more then 50+ BB6s and countless CV6s. There are 3 fleets on MO that can do
this and they hold the harbours. BS, BA & Jokers.

Unless NY fleets merge to take a harbour, the chances of them having any success would be
slim. And with the introduction of say 3 new harbours, what would this do to New MO? 4 MO
fleets hold a harbour, 3 NY fleets hold a harbour. HA is still dead.

When this rule wasnt enforced, HA was great on MO. Nearly one every single weekend. Now
any fleet is lucky to get declared on. The only one who does it nearly every single time
they get a chance in 7th Fleet. I dont even think they can field 20+ BB6s.

But honestly, find this "bias" you talk about.


And Im not saying small fleets cant contend, the only way to get better is to practise.

Recced

Work for it then. Improving your fleet is the way to improve your chances of getting a
harbour, not changing rules.

And I don't see why a compromise is needed, you're the only one against the rule who
actually cares enough to post. Perhaps Devildog vs All could be added to the thread title? :P

you know removing the 1 harbor rule, i guess im not 100% against, but maybe if
kinds thread was introduced, then we could see alot more fun come out of it

id like to compramise here, but you are going to have to compramise as well

@ s0l what difference dose it make if we could hold it, just to own it would be fun,
even if its a week, so ur saying the only ppl who deserve harbors are the ones that
can hold them?

id have great honor in my fleet if they took a harbor, and have that trophy even if its
just a week, so just understand that im not here to insult anyone, just want it to be
fun for all

recommended because more HA's = more fun

soldat1 should have written in capslock. so no-one misses the post. good one

btw: MO has a lot more fleets who are able to play HA. a lot more than 3.

The 1 harbour per fleet rule has no bearing at all on small fleets. You can still attack
and have fun, but you wont win. But isnt that the point? I mean, Harbours are there for
the bigger fleets.

Medium Sized Fleets like TT, Flota Chile etc can field a strong team and can take
harbours. Once you hit the harbour tile, its a simple 35 vs 35 battle, and most medium
sized fleets have at least 20 BB6 accounts which is more then enough to take the harbour tile.

The big fleets can have fun declaring and killing each other.

I see not how the 1 harbour per fleet rule benefits anyone? Small fleets still cant take
harbours, medium fleets can take harbours if they play really well (same as they could
when the rule wasnt there) and big fleets are stuck with nothing to do