Check your PMs. No point in discussing FWs and NFAFL here.

Let's stay on topic pls.

my apoliges I missed that, and wasnt aware they gave prizes to FW i surley missed
that somewhere

and what excact FWs are those you mean event FWs because if u mean event those
dont happen that offen

and offical FWs thru NF dont get you squat

and again NFAFL is for teams and if you mean event fleet wars that limited to teams
as well

still not the same as HAs

I posted the prizes for the FWs down below my post...

And any fleet can participate..

ok JL FWs bud FWs, I know the prizes for NFAFL, and still a limited fleet particapation

"megas get stuff for winning a HA, what does a FW give the victor,"

From www.nfafl.com :

Current Prize Pool - Tier I

1st Place: $20 Prem per player and NFAFL Crystals (2 per team) + 10 NF Cup points.
2nd Place: $15 Prem per player + 7 NF Cup points.
3rd Place: $10 Prem per player + 5 NF Cup points.
4th Place: $5 Prem per player + 3 NF Cup points.
5th - 8th Place: 1 NF Cup Point

Current Prize Pool - Tier II

1st Place: 10 Mil Credits per player and a NFAFL Crystal (1 per team).
2nd Place: 7 Mil Credits per player.
3rd Place: 4 Mil Credits per player.
4th Place: 2 Mil Credits per player.

Current Prize Pool - Tier III

1st Place: NFAFL Crystal (1 per team).

And also :

For the Fleet Wars:
1st place- $15 per player
2nd place- $10 per player
3rd place- $5 per player

So yea, those are some nice prizes...

As for the rest of your post, we will just agree to disagree. The NFAFL and it's events
are more exciting and fun to me then HAs, and I believe for the rest of my fleet the same
thing goes.

And the "stuff" you get from a harbor isn't really a big deal. Free repair costs and some
shiny rentals that cost loads of credits and are only good for leveling low level crap.

no JL im with ya, I dont want to take the megas fun away, by any stretch, and there
are other things to do, also agree, nothing you have said I will disagree with, and
thats not what im doing

but there are options that can be made, for fleets of our size, megas get stuff for
winning a HA, what does a FW give the victor, a W in the win colum nothing more,
NFAFL is more for megas and semi megas because its hard even for some
semimegas to get a team together to fight, not because they dont have the players,
but ppl dont take it as a serious thing sometimes

but as soon as UNF declared on KM I had ppl comming out of the woodworks in my
fleet to attend, there is whole different lvl of excitment to a HA, and you cant argue
that, FWs and NFAFL just dosent bring the same to the table, most FWs are selected
players, and NFAFL is the same thing, its a battle that last 30 mins and done,
nothing else, HA is exciting very exciting and ppl want to play in them for that reason

ppl cant recruit the big players because the megas have them or fixin to approve
there application, so you just get stuck with the same ole crap, and then you loose
ppl because they want to do HAs, so im all ears if you have a sloution here, all I am
doing is doing what any good fleet ldr would, help my fleet have the best experiance
in NF that they can, and if I have to fight for that, well...my fleet is worth the fight

That's pretty much the same as saying everyone should go to the NF Cup(or instert another
example if you must) because it's part of the game and of the fun and all.

I am from what most consider a small-medium fleet and we don't do HAs often at all and I
disagree with you simply because you have a whole different concept of what an HA should
be, not because I am part of a mega and we all conspire to keep our harbors. And I accept
the fact that HAs is all about bringing everything you can, your biggest ships, the most
firepower you can muster as a fleet and participating in huge battles.

If HAs were limited in some way, where else will people use the BB6s they leveled? Where
else will the mega battles between fleets happen? I know I want at least one game mode
where there are very few restrictions and it's all about using everything you have.

I would really understand your complaint if there were NO OTHER good fleet battle modes
that would include smaller fleets. But there are. And they are mega fun.

To have 2(3 if you consider FWs) modes that even the playing field and none that is all
about bringing your best is what I disagree with you.

now I know MO needs something different because of the smaller player base, so im
sure you dont know where im comming from az has a much wider player base

my issue with this and believe me its not the 1 harbor rule, and its not the fleets
overpower everyone else

its that the medium and smaller fleets cant have fun in them either, we have asked,
and asked and asked for maybe smaller harbors so they can have fun too, but all
the megas want to do is keep them for themselves, I fully understand what the
megas are trying to protect here, im not a idiot

but everytime we try to suggest something for us it get shot down by the megas,
even the sub harbor idea, it would cram up the server and so on and so on, how
does that dfiffer from their HAs that produce mega lag thruout the entire server, but
again others have to suffer for just their fun, and its not right

then they ridicule the smaller fleets for even trying to suggest something, and we
get comments like theres NFAFL and FWs, enough joelittle ive heard it the last 20
times you posted it, but we want HAs too, its part of the gamer and everybody
should have access to it, I pay my money too, and alot more then some, and I
shouldnt be stuck in the regular members catigory and the megas get the VIP access

thats my problem here, you want to know what it is, I just spelled it out for ya, sorry
u just cant understand that, and sorry MO is dead, thats not the entires communitys
fault, i blame SDE for opening another server that wasnt needed, and MO is getting
the raw end of the deal

you want your more then 1 harbor rule changed? then help us come up with a
solution to make that happen, that everyone can be involved in all the activitys, not
just the megas, problem is you dont even want to help, and that says alot

Limiting 1 harbor per fleet isnt helping small fleets, I havent seen a small fleet coming
close to taking a harbor, so I really dont get why you would complain Devildog? Please
tell me what this rule has actually achieved?

Sigh. I think I have said this like 20 times. But I will say it again. There is already
something that evens the playing field with big fleets. That's called the NFAFL and all
it's Fleet Wars. You get those at least once a week and I find them a lot more fun then
HAs. Plus the chance of fighting in the NF Cup with fleets from all around the world.

I still fail to see how having or not the 1 harbor per fleet rule will help out fleets
that aren't in the top 6 for HAs. What will eventually come down to, will be: The top 4
each hold a harbor their own, without being able to attack each other in a pointless
stalemate. Most likely the 7th top fleet or lower will never be able to conquer any of
those, since it doesn't stand a chance even against the 4th. My point is that a smaller
fleet(as you put it) stands the same chance of taking a harbor from the 4th/5th fleet then
if a top fleet owned all 4 of them.