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  • False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    05. 31. 2011 15:41

Starluck
Greetings,



I submit that any player that submits a complaint that is investigated by a
Moderator and the conclusion that the player doesnt know the rules should result in
a temporary ban to teach these people to read all the rules on game play and forum
posting.

My reasons why:

#1 I have been threatend by one game mod humping ships with my sub.

#2 I have been threated by one game mod for asserting that Fleet Team NF
players are consideredc a priority target and we enjoy sinking them.

#3 I have multiple players complain and threatend to have me banned every time
I hump a ship for air in my submarine. I am forced to defend myself and screen
capture the text chat exchange incase #1 and/or #2 happen again. Even mods
have to learn the rules. Precise/exact rules addressing every situation has not yet
been concluded and are under developement, but humping has been precisely
defined as legal any/which/way you can manage it.

#4 I notice that every time an issue regarding humping is brought up including the
use of border humping with planes and ships, the post get locked because the issue
has been settle years ago yet there is no effort or way to force every player to learn
and acknowledge all the rules resulting in false complaints which are sometimes
taken seriously by game mods.

#5 Players attempt to turn posts in to player bashing, or trying to go off topic.
There is a brand new set of rules the forum moderators must follow. These new
rules coorelated to the fact that players either dont know the rules or refuse to
follow them.

Question: Why should players whom follow all the rules undergo player bashing, in
game threats and harrasment simply because players dont know the rules. Its ok to
disagree with the rules, but not know the rules is no excuse to attack other players
regardless of which rules you disagree with this would include the follow:

BBs without Scouts
CVs without Fighters
Ships humping the borders
Aircraft humping the borders
BBs with smaller guns
Submarines humping ships without guns or HH to defend themselves
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  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 09:29

ljsevern
"And if they poke fun at you too hard, you can always put in a ticket about
harassment."

>>> This is what is wrong with the game. WTB ignore function. It would make
everyone's life so much easier.

@Cisco
If you run around in joke setups and do well, that is besides the point. Its those than
run around with no scout crying about blindness, run around in capital ships dying
with a tiny amount of attack, Bomber whores that go around sending 9 planes on
one pilot, bomber whores that get little to no attack.

I can go on and on. If you aren't a credit to your team, I will tell you about it, and tell
you how to improve. If you don't like it, either:-

Ignore it and carry on being a bad player

Take it under advisement and learn to be a better player

Go play a non shared exp mode.

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 08:42

free3play
Re: Harrasment.

mummy mummy the mean elitists made fun of me ban them,

Man. Up.

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 08:09

Stormvanger
Cisco, their comments are based on efficiency. There are just some setups in the game
that work better than others. You can set up your ships and crews pretty much however you
want, but you should realize that the "normal" stuff they're talking about is just the
group-think consensus of what works best.

Don't fly it in their faces and they'll usually let you be. And if they poke fun at you
too hard, you can always put in a ticket about harassment. They're entitled to their
opinion, you're entitled to your fun.

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 07:50

ciscodelorum
"BBs without Scouts
CVs without Fighters
Ships humping the borders
Aircraft humping the borders
BBs with smaller guns
Submarines humping ships without guns or HH to defend themselves"

I'm sorry but that just ticks me off, BAD.
We are free to setup our ships in any way we want, you happen to be talking to a
guy who has:
MN BB3, dont use my scout.
2 BW cvs, I sink the flag every game.
I send my planes right down the middle.
Sodak with New Mexico guns, it kicks major a** so wth are you talking about!

Sorry you just kinda made me mad.

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 07:35

Stormvanger
Duelling Mods here, I'm afraid I have to disagree. If you shoot and kill a friendly ship,
humper or otherwise, it's still a TK and could result in a suspension.

Humping is legal and fine in most game modes. The question is whether or not the sub is
hampering his team by humping a weaponless CV. If the sub's presence prevents his
teammates from sinking the CV, and that CV's planes kill a BB or CV on your team in the
meantime, then that is definitely a problem. But if it's just the BB on your team being
impatient, then it's still on them.

Sub-humping-CV is usually an excellent tactic, but sometimes it IS teamwork fail. But
teamwork fail isn't a justification for TK in any other circumstance, so I don't see why I
would be here.

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 07:00

Charles87
*crawls out of hermit hole for just a second*
Kinlu

The rule is not been blatently stated (as of yet I do not believe - I know vick is working
on a rewrite of the rules to make more clear and address some issues that Fleet leaders
have brought up for discussion) -

However:
A flagship retreating is considered as stacking. IF a flagship does this and is reported
multiple times...this player will receive a ban, because it is not fair to the players who
wait 10 min to start a room and then have 5 min to cross a sea of other players...to find
a flag ship retreating to the far south back corner of map.

There are some grey areas to this rule - as there are in lots rule but I wont get into that.

To answer the question proposed - as a Mod - in my opinion- If you are a sub and your are
humping a ship - and you get sunk because a battleship rolls on up along and shoots the
helpless and you - thats your fault... Why should they get banned for TK when you
purposely placed yourself along side the enemy ship with no immediate purpose to attack?

As stated before as well...if you have issue with what MODs say - feel free to put ticket
in. AND if there is a mod bullying you (though I find hard to believe)- put ticket in.

*back to hermit hole See you all next week.*

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 05:23

free3play
Another great post by starluck, he never fails to deliver.

  • Re : Flagship Retreating is Bannable Offense

    06. 01. 2011 05:08

Starluck
I will allow moderator to post the rule, but it was settle a few months ago. Same
thing goes for Flagship accidently driving off the map.

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 05:03

KinLuu
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I have never retreated as Flagship, and doing so is a bannable offense.
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Show me that rule.

  • Re : False complaints = temporary ban for the complainer?

    06. 01. 2011 04:52

Starluck
I have never retreated as Flagship, and doing so is a bannable offense. However I
do have a macro that I might spam if im not the Flagship and Im in a bad mood
because Im sick of players bashing CV players for not doing this, or for doing that. I
have had enough experience behind a CV, and playing every single ship class and
type in this game but kita/tw, I have the exp and wisdom to know what works and
what doesnt.

My CV5 Europa has 1 scout, 4 fighters, 1 tb and 2 dbs.

For the most part I fighter blockaide enemey CVs keeping them from launching
aircraft. I dont patroll my teams frontlines nor the nuetral zone. I prefer to take the
action to them. If im providing fighter blockaide I have the attention of their entire
team. I have all the AA ships after me, I have multiple CVs trying to counter my
blockaide because im taking about scouts, bombers, and fighters all sink the same.

I also understand the awareness factor and lack thereof. If your on the north front
and your blind and you dont fall back and request aircover then your doing
something wrong. Team chat is there for a reason. If im on the north front in my
carrier and your on the middle or south front having eye sight problems and you
dont use team chat in a polite and productive manner then that upsets players.

To teach players to use team chat productively in game such as informing players of
incoming bombers, fighters, subs, rushing BBs, torp walls ects I might make such a
threat. I seldom see anyone, and when I say seldom I mean less then 1% of all
games have I heard any such ingame intel unless I ask for it in team chat. Yet, I
provide that info every game regardless of which ship im in. Sometimes I am
thanked for the info, sometimes not, but it helps and its polite and productive.

There is a post I made regarding awerness factor, those of you that havent played
lvl 100+ of every ship class wont have the same knowledge or exp as those whom
have. Again this is off topic and is a reponse to a flamer, both should be removed.
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