No one was saying the money "cant" be earnt or what not the opinion i made was i
dont see the "need" because a time limit would completly throw out any fleet that is
simply trying to waste time etc... i have a feeling once HA bugs have been filterd, i
say near filterd entierly then i, guessing there will be a declaring charge anyway.

And yes its not hard to earn alot of creds in a short amount of time to throw in the
fleet funds, but its not that easy, people have personal goals to attend to ( the
entire point of this game?) but yes before that is critisised i can agree thats personal
preference and completly upto each and every player, putting that aside yes it can
be done by a hand full of high level CV drivers in a short amount of time, but why?

I do like the idea atm but it seems its ether bargin with jedi for our money back or
lose the money in battle. (seens jedi will more then likely hold the harbours they
have now or some of them for some time) all im saying is i think the time limit would
cause less crying and encourage more fleets to stop petty tactics to stall and piss off
the bigger fleets because if they dont take the first tile in 30/40 mins? the HA auto
cancels anyway so if they dont try and make a decent tactic/stand up fight they will
fail the HA anyway.

Idk this idea could be quite well and could work (if its even introduced) who knows.

But i do agree that smaller fleets should follow the way FOD and the likes took
towards trying to gain experience in HA.

first fix bugs HA!

While i do agree that a system needs to in place where an attacking fleet must pay
to do it, i think it needs tweeking. Some smaller fleets who are coming into their own
just now truly have a hard time raising those kind of funds. Once, maybe twice, ok.
After that, they are hosed, and must wait 1 or 2 months to grind out that many
creds. Maybe if you get half way to the harbor, you get half back. All the way to it,
you get it all back, i dunno.

I believe NFEU currently has a 5,000,000 credit HA registration fee. Nothing back if you
loose.

So if it works there, with three HA days a week, NFNA should have little problem amongst
the members to find funds. After all, we have been collecting credits at a higher rate and
for longer than NFEU.


Panther

No one individual should need 100 mill... the\your fleet bank should have 100 mill.
It really doesnt take long to get 100 mill from scratch... it would take a decent
fighterwhore CV 10 - 20 battles to earn 1 mill creds.
It really shouldn't take a fleet of 40 - 50 guys more than 5 - 7 days to earn 100 mill.

Anyway, as for the need... i believe there is a need... in Arizona anyway.
Currently there are 4 fleets that can compete in HA between themselves...

Jedi
ORP
Flotta Gallega
Playmates

And several fleets that can give a good unrestricted battle i.e. good numbers\tactics or
just a fun battle in which experience is the purpose.

After you get past the fleets like Regalia, C&C, AE, SSGS, FoD & Nato you really enter a
territory where the attackers are neither prepared or in anyway going to threaten the
defender... they just hit the "declare" button first, or attacked when there is absolutely
no possibility of gaining anything.

The idea of this suggestion is to FIX a problem, not create one.
The problem is fleets are attacking regardless of their ability to participate in HA.
The charge would be there to make those fleets think twice.

Would it be fair to pitch a handicap kid against a roid' monster in a licensed boxing
match? - fun to watch but the outcome would never be in question.

It wouldn't be fair, its hardly likely to be fun, and its certainly unlikely to surprise
anyone.

SSGS and FoD are going about their HA experience by being communicative and respectful.
If anyone else wants to get involved in HA for the experience (where there is next to no
chance of success) then copy them.
Otherwise, just grind out 15 - 20 BB6's and wait until your prepared.

Idk could work, as with most my posts i can only vouch for my personal view/opinion,
i can tell you i aint one of the people that have 100s of millions of credits just lying
around, unlike some people to get my sbb and scv i had to grind up and lend creds.

But trying not to lead off topic, my view is i dont see so much the "need" for a
charge on HA, time limit would work fine.

Again just my view.

And i do understand there are still people with 100s of mils of creds just sat there
but i dont see why such a drastic measure would be needed.

"Heres 100mil btw that took me 3/4months to work up so please let me take the
harbour JAJA" lol

I wish i could quote individuals with a click of a button.

What everyone should realize is that it doesnt matter where credits are as long as they
are in circulation.
"Jedi want more credits" is ridiculous, there may be 200,000,000 credits stashed up by
members of 1 fleet, but there is still another 999,999,999,999 credits going around in
circulation.
And inflation on Arizona is so high at the moment that 100 mill doesnt get you bugger all,
it doesnt even pay for a 115 scout in some cases.
Seriously, i would love it if there was a conspiracy by a Clan superpower to suck the
credits from the community because then maybe my 40 million may actually be worth
something one day.

It takes a fleet of 100 1 minute to hand over 1 million each to the fleet bank... simple.
It takes a fleet of 50 1 minute to hand over 2 million each to the fleet bank... you get it?
Credits are nothing, they really are absolutely nothing, they get you nothing of
worthwhile value for the effort earning them so why not trade them in for the best 2 hours
of Navyfield you will ever have?

an ok suggestion, but i dont really like it.

first of all, all of the small fleets, unless they have a very good supply of money from
somewhere, would be very discouraged to even try to battle, even if they were serious and
had a good force.

secondly, even some of the big fleets might not care to try wasting that much money
anymore. HA would just become a super serious thing that would be very annoying to get
together. thus taking any real fun out of it.

also, this might get more recommendations if it did not come from someone who owned most
of the harbors already. because this suggestion just makes it easier for you and harder
for everyone else.

Ijsevern

I fully agree with you on a the deposit.

@ ljsevern

I like the idea and then again I do not. I know about it being hard and taking up your
time when you have a fleet that just does not have the people and or the now how. Money
may be slightly hard. But a fleet should be able to pull it all in.

What I do not like is the part giving some back. In my eyes should be all in or nothing at
all. just me