As "stable" as the game itself. And I crashed eight times out of twenty games today...

I find it quite disturbing that first SDE and our spokes person Yuno was recently in a
server merge/death of game uproar. And now TNF is in the same uproar or community vs
authority. It worries me of how stable the NF structure is right now.

@ Hoplita

So by that logic any fleet under 30 members should be banned when attacking a harbour?
But then again it says a "manned" fleet, not un-manned.

Hop, you quoted it yourself yet still fail to see it.

"this means you will have no chance of winning and will most likely lead to wasting
the defending fleets time. "There is no fleet defending but he already broke the 30
members rule.""

There was no defending fleet, correct, THEREFORE, he DID have a chance to win (which he
and his fleet members DID win). NOT wasting any defending fleets time (because there was
none) AND the fact that he had a 100% chance to win unless he didn't even attack (which he
and his fleet mates did attack) PROVES that he should not have been punished AT ALL for this.

YET, the power-abusing TNF decided to completely ignore these facts and just jump right
into banning both of his main accounts (the Rehor account is COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO THIS
HA and SHOULD NOT have been banned for ANY reason) without even confronting him beforehand
to find out WHY he even decided to declare an HA. THIS is where Vick11 and "his posse"
failed HARDCORE.

He did broke the rulles.


1. Basic Fleet requirements :

You must have at least 30 members to declare harbor assault, "Doesen't"

having less than " he Does"

this means you will have no chance of winning and will most likely lead to wasting
the defending fleets time. "There is no fleet defending but he already broke the 30
members rule."

Closed discussion sadly i'm not a mod:(

@ above
That is correct and the only reason rehor's 2 main accounts were banned is because some of
the moderator team have a big huge hard on for him and were just looking for any reason to
punish him.
Which in my opinion is a very douche bag move on their part and rehor deserves a public
apology from the head douche himself.

He has not broken any rules and as stated above this should have been handled the week of
declaration prior to the assault, because once the assault is done it is now to late for
said rules to be implemented.

Yet another reason so many members have so little faith in the moderator team

Ok, so i havent been playing NF much lately due to classes and have no real ingame
input from the situation... but have read thru all 8 or 9 pages of this post...

FROM THAT... I would like to quote these specific passages from the OFFICIAL NF
RULES thread

1. Declaring war with fake fleets.(Fleet member less than 30)
2. Does not attack the harbour after declaration.
3. When the HA starts, no members are sent to battles, or they only wait for the
time to pass and end the HA.
4. Repeatly declaring war without participating.
Anyone of the above means it was an aggressive declaration, so if defending fleet
encounters such situations, they can provide sufficient proof and apply for
cancellation of the HA for that week. The attacking fleet will be officially punished as
per the rules later.

Possible punishments for breaches of the rules above:
1. Official Warning on the NavyField Forums
2. Cancellation of the declaration
3. Credit and Points fine for the Fleet Leader
4. 3-7 days ban for Fleet Leader
5. De-leveling of the Fleets Radioman to level 50
6. Dismissal of the fleet.

Now from my reading i can see that Rehor has violated rule 1, not rule 2, rule 3 or
rule 4
As per the paragraph following rule 4... specifically "... so if defending fleet
encounters such situations, they can provide sufficient proof and apply for
cancellation of the HA for that week. The attacking fleet will be officially punished as
per the rules later."

My response is that the defending fleet(nobody) should have provided proof, or if it
was a problem for some other fleet which had intentions
of declaring then they should be the ones that reported it for THAT WEEK so that the
attack could have been cancelled.
Had it been reported I would then believe Rehor should be punished according to the
punishment guidelines...

WHICH means he should have received atleast one of the following
1. Official Warning on the NavyField Forums
2. Cancellation of the declaration
3. Credit and Points fine for the Fleet Leader
4. 3-7 days ban for Fleet Leader
5. De-leveling of the Fleets Radioman to level 50
6. Dismissal of the fleet.

Now due to the fact that this was apparently not reported prior to the time of the
attack, the mods should be able to apply any of these
if they really want to but nothing more substantial than a 3-7 day ban for the fleet
leader account alone.

From my understanding not only was the fleet leader account banned but also
another account, which would seem to be out of the line of the rules,
furthermore the issue was not reported when it was supposed to have been for the
attacking fleet to recieve punishment...

SOOO I SAY TO THE MODERATOR TEAM,
please overturn your decision, though rehor may have violated a rule, it was not
reported per the guidelines in the rules, and the punishment was also not in
accordance to the punishment guidelines...

*NOTE*- if the fleet leader account were the only one punished with any or all of the
guidelines it could be seen as semi appropriate even though the reporting system for
the rules was flawed.

I believe it's me, yes last week is awhile for NF...:)

"describe a while, are you refering to the last week"-devildog8

Who are you asking?

describe a while, are you refering to the last week