There are a few legitimate reasons to account share.

First of all, fleet leaders may need to share details if one of the squads is full or they request to be placed in a certain squad. I trust all my fleet leaders, but the fact is there are plenty of other fleets that may not be comfortable with each other - particularly new fleets.

Second of all fleet accounts can be very rewarding and also make the game less repetitive. In a game that is dominated by monotony, playing a new ship can be a breath of fresh air sometimes and encouraging to continue playing NF. It is also team-building to do so and create a common goal that is achievable by any fleet.

Thirdly, account sharing allows smaller fleets to compete with larger fleets since HA is all about numbers. I am willing to place money that 99% of fleets who have participated in HA have shared accounts.

There are more reasons to account share, but I will let other people fill them in if they feel it necessary.

The reason for the rule on account sharing was simply to stop people taking up the GM's time claiming they were 'hacked' when in reality they just shared passwords. My suggestion does not go against this and, to be honest, I think you will find that they will receive more 'I got hacked' support tickets now than before because it is so much easier to do.



It does not make sense to code in a PIN system if SDE's mentality is that account sharing is strictly illegal and as a result people won't do it. If it really is then whats the point of the PIN system? lol.

Stop being unrealistic and accept that people will account share and work from there. I honestly think my suggestion would lower the number of support tickets claiming they were hacked. If you disagree then say why.

what is the big deal about adding a pin system (trade password) in order to change email ? is it that hard to do ? does it require that much work ? So what if its illegal to account share, you are making more work for yourselves by making excuses why you cant fix it.

And in the first place you have to do this anyway, if someone hacks your account, they just change the email to theirs, then they can change the trade password using their email, log into your account and trade away all your sailors

lol what about the poor guys who have gone on a break and have left their passwords in the hands of someone else, here they are thinking they are safe because the second password is protecting their stuff, even if they use their email alot they wont get notified that somethings up.... and when they eventually come back ... their account will be wiped clean and probably deleted using the account withdraw feature lol

I just realized that we're arguing two completely different issues.

I think some clarification is needed.

I am NOT against the implementation of a second pin in order for the e-mail change to happen etc. If something can be brought in to improve account security I am all for that.

HOWEVER, what I've been trying to say is for people that do share their accounts and end up getting hacked (even after a second pin system for e-mail etc is implemented) then that is your problem. You are responsible for your own account and if you choose to give out information to someone else and it ends up biting you back then that's your problem.

We were literally talking about apples and oranges.

Not read any of this as all the responses are too long when all it needs to say is:

Possible solution to account sharing....don't share and use your own account.

I am understanding of TNF and SDE's view that if you share your password and 2nd pin and then magically get 'hacked' that it is their own fault. I have no issue with it them not wanting to restore things when it is their own fault.

However, given the pointlessness of the 2nd PIN system since the new website it would be nice to restore it's use as a safety barrier. I simply thought that something could be done with minimal effort that would improve security and player 'happiness' (for lack of a better word) until it is hard coded.

I have to disagree with the concept that the PIN system was implemented purely to stop people being hacked though. If people were truly being hacked frequently enough that SDE felt they should put in the PIN system then I am fairly sure that I would have heard about it over the years.

All I've heard of are people whining about being hacked, but when it comes down to investigating the issue it turns out they just shared their password.


Oh and just to confirm - I am all for it being coded so that you either need your second PIN to change the email or simply can not change the email address. My reason for suggesting this is as I said before - given how long it took for this website to be made, I don't think it is wise to hold your breath so I am suggesting an interim solution that is pretty simple.

Foxhound31, you are basically encouraging account theft by enforcing your policy

The least you could do discourage theft by temporarily adjusting your policy whilst this security loophole exists, and when its fixed you can go back to your old policy. A little extra work isnt going to kill you. Its only gonna hurt the game when players quit due to account theft.