Obviously you didnt play many HA in your life.

Do you have any sort of idea of how hard it is to keep control on a fleet, where everyone knows you, and acknowledge your authority as a fleet officer/HA leader?

You'd lack coordination, and have probably a lot of DDs entering the harbor tile and such. An all welcome HA? Just lol.


Otherwise, being in a fleet must bring advantages. If you choose not to join a fleet, you also choose not to participate in fleet-based gameplay. And in NF, thats HA and FL. Fleets must also be more than fancy tags in GB you know.

The moment I am allowed to declare on harbors is the moment I GET OFF.

Yeah you are right, actually i am in a fleet who does count around 23 members, but we are not enough even to think do do an HA.
We are some friends playing this game but we dont stand a chance.

But we could join one of those gigafleet, became only numbers in a vaste crowd.


And for the discipline keeping, you can think the Ronin would have to nominate a leader in those who join and this leader would act like a fleet master the time of the HA, and obviously accept to be subordinate to the actual fleet master.
Eery merc would have to make a report of what ship he has, and the leader can give instruction in what order the ships have to be used, a simple tool could help to not stack the game, and if a players have only DDs and CLs he would not participate to a HA, but the guy who just unlocked his third BB1-2-3 could really enjoy the experience and give him a push to go on grinding.

You say open door to spies and similiar?
Maybe, but who abuse will pay it, can by via ticket or via a bad reputation spread around by the fleet.
I actually heard that often some accounts of the fleets are lended to other players that want to participate the HA, isnt that too an opening for the spies? Actually a fleet could have a pool of player that are not in the fleet (for various reasons) but can be asked for help, avoiding account sharing and similars.

Why? because the harbors are in the hands of fleets that cant be defeated other than the other gigafleet.
This proposal has the intent to dynamise the game.
Either by limitating the number of players in the fleets or allowing small fleet to join up.
And dont worry for the server wide title, if the big fleet lose, they can attack the next week, and if the small fleet cant gather enough help, they will certainly win.
But a lot of new player would have participated to a HA and have a better idea of the game.
I dont know about any other game where you need months only to start real play.

But yeah, propably its better if the harbors stay in the hand of those fleet, who will get all, or almost all new players to enter just because they cant be defeated.


I didnt made any HA so far, because i would like to participate with some friends (real life friends, or REAL friends, not just a guy i have met on the internet and i really dont know about him, i dont know if this distinction is valid for you too), not abbandon them to join a bigger fleet, or we could leave all together our fleet, but what is the point in doing that?

Most of the fleet dont even try to do HA because they cant dream of winning. So it would be cool, or to allow players to participate as allies in a HA or maybe allow entiere small fleets to join for the fight, like a squadron, would give a kick to the game.

What we need right now is to dynamize the game, breack the status quo, because the last 2 year i have seen the participation in this game go lower and lower.
People with a lvl 100-120 crew usually stay but in termediate players, who should be the spine of any game are running away because when they reach GB they dont stand a chance, and being sunk 1000 times before being able to actually do something tend to have an inverted proprtion of people staying in this game.

I understand your wanting to play HA and your situation. We have all been there.

However the point of an HA is exactly the opposite of that. There are only 4 harbors in the game and HA is considered one of the only end-game achievements of NF. Part of that achievement is to build, recruit, manage a fleet with a strong foundation. Then build up a reputation over years, then recruit strong members.

It is not meant for the fleet of 30 less than a month old, half of them in blitz who happen to pick up a bunch of hired BB6, and be on par with a giga fleet.( Also they would need to pick up at least 50 BB6 ronins to get even close to the size of some of them.)

This suggestion would push back years of work these fleets put in to give a shortcut to a bunch of undeserving BB123. Its like seeing a DD asking for a BB6. There is the option of joining the fleet but even still those guys would not be getting any of the true HA experience as no smart fleet would put a BB123 in the harbor tile.

If any of those small fleets want to participate, they best get working on building a reputation these giga fleets spent years building. If you grow your fleet a bit, by the time you have around 40 BB6 you will begin to understand the effort and commitment the big fleets put in to get where they are and appreciate HA.

Until then if you are truly concerned about the little ones, keep pushing for BB123 rooms and 2Fleet vs All. Yes those are quite fun and it helps build relations with other fleets and a reputation for yourself. Even ask to All Weclome alongside one of the big fleets. Again it takes effort.