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  • Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 11. 2011 03:28

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leaderwolf
Who is Ronin?A samurai with out master or dead find the honorabile way to continued fight.
Watch 47 Ronini a great story.
Untaged players can be easy add to Ronin new button in radioman with no penality to leave.
Ronin can be participate in any HA,and coordonate with ventrilo.
Leaders of Ronin fleet is been voted be other Ronin's.
Other option is been Pirates fleet.
Tag of Fleet can be cross of Katana and Wakizashi symbol of Ronin Musashi.
I hope that new option is do game more atractive.

 

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 12. 2011 04:58


Thebarrel
honestly this idea is quite horrible cause it removes the purpose of having to join an actual fleet to join Ha's etc

but if anything do not make it a fleet..... but insted just like a status

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 12. 2011 05:15


nyerkovic
Originally Posted by KingCong

I understand your wanting to play HA and your situation. We have all been there.

However the point of an HA is exactly the opposite of that. There are only 4 harbors in the game and HA is considered one of the only end-game achievements of NF. Part of that achievement is to build, recruit, manage a fleet with a strong foundation. Then build up a reputation over years, then recruit strong members.

It is not meant for the fleet of 30 less than a month old, half of them in blitz who happen to pick up a bunch of hired BB6, and be on par with a giga fleet.( Also they would need to pick up at least 50 BB6 ronins to get even close to the size of some of them.)

This suggestion would push back years of work these fleets put in to give a shortcut to a bunch of undeserving BB123. Its like seeing a DD asking for a BB6. There is the option of joining the fleet but even still those guys would not be getting any of the true HA experience as no smart fleet would put a BB123 in the harbor tile.

If any of those small fleets want to participate, they best get working on building a reputation these giga fleets spent years building. If you grow your fleet a bit, by the time you have around 40 BB6 you will begin to understand the effort and commitment the big fleets put in to get where they are and appreciate HA.

Until then if you are truly concerned about the little ones, keep pushing for BB123 rooms and 2Fleet vs All. Yes those are quite fun and it helps build relations with other fleets and a reputation for yourself. Even ask to All Weclome alongside one of the big fleets. Again it takes effort.


I have to agree with this.
My respects to all fleet leaders, since it's an enormous amount of work.

The thought of playing in HA is the main reason for people to build fleets and work on them.

There are other ways to get intermediate players interested in their ships (without being sunk 1000 times in GB), there are normal rooms (BB123) and Select Mode BB/CA (Under lvl80). But then again, intermediate players want exp so they don't play those modes. For HA you need to build up skill also, not only numbers... and select modes are the best to build skill and know your ships.

The harbor tile is all about skill since both fleets play with the same numbers. Numbers might help you get to the harbor tile, but in the end, you have to win the last battle.

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 12. 2011 08:05


B_Duck
Person with too much time on his hands has too much time on his hands.

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 12. 2011 14:45


Eradicator1
If you're not a terrible bb player then with a bb2+ you should be able to get into many large fleets

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 13. 2011 10:53


RedNemo
My real problem id that actually my last fleet just died (for the leader and almost all the biggest ships leaved the game)

Actually i play in a fleet which almost nobody is ever one, its quite frustrating.

What to do abbandon the fleet? Convince all players who plays to leave this fleet and join another?

It doesnt look quite loyal to my fellow fleet mates.

But, I can accept a motivated answer, if the real threat is that small fleets with a swarm of BB6 mercenaries. I can easily understand that would not be cool for the fleet defending.

I didnt know that HA were such a real big deal and, well, I just thought that was just a kind of different palystyle.

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 13. 2011 10:56


aingeal
Originally Posted by RedNemo

My real problem id that actually my last fleet just died (for the leader and almost all the biggest ships leaved the game)

Actually i play in a fleet which almost nobody is ever one, its quite frustrating.

What to do abbandon the fleet? Convince all players who plays to leave this fleet and join another?

It doesnt look quite loyal to my fellow fleet mates.

But, I can accept a motivated answer, if the real threat is that small fleets with a swarm of BB6 mercenaries. I can easily understand that would not be cool for the fleet defending.

I didnt know that HA were such a real big deal and, well, I just thought that was just a kind of different palystyle.


You serve a fleet as much as it will serve you, in a way.

Being loyal to your fleet is quite important of course, I wouldn't recruit fleet hopper.

But if it doesnt work anymore, then it doesn't. If the reason for which you joined a fleet ain't there anymore, do not feel bad at giving them your leaving notice. This is a game where you have a right to enjoy fleet based gameplay.

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 13. 2011 11:13


RedNemo
Originally Posted by aingeal


You serve a fleet as much as it will serve you, in a way.

Being loyal to your fleet is quite important of course, I wouldn't recruit fleet hopper.

But if it doesnt work anymore, then it doesn't. If the reason for which you joined a fleet ain't there anymore, do not feel bad at giving them your leaving notice. This is a game


Well to be honest we are a bunch of friends 5/6 who usally play together, we join this fleet because they proposed to us. We are not what i would call big players for sure ^^, but almost all of us now begin to have a decent ship line or two.

What i noticed is that almost all players of mid levels dont really know what those other types of battle are, because its quite complicate, why have we to select a special kind of game? reducing even more the number of willing to join players, and make the room die for 10 min.

If the intermetiate level games were easier to set, for example whit no Class restricted games, with only a lvl limit, i wont tell 70-80-90 or so because i dont really have enough knowledge of this game to give numbers, but when i read a comment like:

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

The instant this takes effect I will make infinity alt accs and put ffs into harbor tile.

NOPE

NEXT TROLL THREAD PLEASE


Well we cant say it really helps.

I would also apologyse to have over reacted, i just finished an exam session, and maybe was a bit stressed, i hope from now on discussion could go better, and maybe an idea will come out, because is useless to hide behind hands, the participation of this game is not really growing, and often the mid levels players just leave, what could be done is give them a reson to come back.

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 13. 2011 14:51


Eradicator1
Originally Posted by RedNemo

My real problem id that actually my last fleet just died (for the leader and almost all the biggest ships leaved the game)

Actually i play in a fleet which almost nobody is ever one, its quite frustrating.

What to do abbandon the fleet? Convince all players who plays to leave this fleet and join another?

It doesnt look quite loyal to my fellow fleet mates.

But, I can accept a motivated answer, if the real threat is that small fleets with a swarm of BB6 mercenaries. I can easily understand that would not be cool for the fleet defending.

I didnt know that HA were such a real big deal and, well, I just thought that was just a kind of different palystyle.

I don't understand loyalty towards 2 other people.

HA is a big deal to the fleets that play them.

Originally Posted by RedNemo

often the mid levels players just leave, what could be done is give them a reson to come back.


The people who get to mid level and quit are often people who wouldn't have come back either way

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 13. 2011 22:04


RedNemo
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

I don't understand loyalty towards 2 other people.

HA is a big deal to the fleets that play them.

Originally Posted by RedNemo

often the mid levels players just leave, what could be done is give them a reson to come back.


The people who get to mid level and quit are often people who wouldn't have come back either way


I am not quite sure of that, those who leave can also be those who wont come back, but a big part are people who are really willing to participate to the game but since its quite impossible, unless you beg for a fleet help (and a lot of people just dont think about it) they just stop playing.

More players means more DDs,CLs the first months more CA some months later and in 5 or 6 months a swarm of new small BB and CV.

  • Re : Add Ronin option for untaged players

    09. 13. 2011 23:02


KingCong
if those few friends of yours are truly loyal to each other, i suggest you form your own SQ and join back up. If your main fleet isnt growing and getting inactive, you can withdraw the SQ without losing touch with your buddies, the loyal ones.

It is also easier to join up with other SQ in similar situations. Possibly share leadership which is not uncommon, even for some of the current harbor owners. And if things go sour, withdrawing the SQ will still keep you guys together so you dont have to re-tag individually (only suffer a penalty).

also I dont think HA or not being able to play them is a problem for mid level players to leave. To be honest, a BB4 player in HA will not even be able to compete in the Harbor tile, which is the main attraction. The ocean tiles play the similar to fleet vs all rooms anyway.

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