Ok, well...you have fun waiting for TNF to organize the fleet league. And, it really helps your argument when you hide behind the "different opinions" thing. Sure, everything got voted on and the majority ruled, but ok.



From what I recall, you were banned for spamming PMs to league council and SK was banned for spamming reports for no apparent reason on the forum.

The reason things went on for months is because people like you and SK complained about every little thing that didn't go your way and, when votes were held, your ideas lost out. So, you stomped your feet and called everyone biased.



Ah yes, the Armada Chilena that said a player crashed...but he was still online. Then, when that was pointed out, another excuse was given that he should be allowed back in even though he didn't crash. Makes perfect sense.

Yes, it was biased referees. Those damn refs!



The issues on what should be allowed and disallowed were voted on by many different people. You say that people don't want the rules and people don't want the restrictions and you argue for months that there should be open voting and more voices...yet people voted and decided.on damn near everything.

There were constant opportunities to ask for and vote on rule changes. There were constant opportunities to ask for and vote on changes to ship limits and restrictions.

I really don't know what more you want. Many of the things you complain about were voted on by the fleet leaders and the referees.

Would you just like to implement your ideas and not let anyone vote on it instead?

Also, when looking at this league, it is run by a council of...what I can tell...two AZ fleet leaders, two TNF members, one MO fleet person, and the referee votes which are a handful of different people.

But...sure...Lukas makes all the decisions and the league is biased for Jedi.

The same arguments that continue to make no logical sense when looking at the reality of the situation.

As for a new league not owned by anyone, pardon me if I don't hold my breath on that one.

Just note...As I remember I got 14 days ban from ONF forum some months ago...but ONF forum must run on other timeline because I´m still banned... =)

I wish better steps for every Nebraska FL in the new year than they did in this year.

Merry Christmass to all ;-)

I would recommend that you don't go to a forum and spam all of the admins with reports of offensive posts.

I wish you merry Christmass too =)

The majority? You didn't warned or publicite the league as we asked. You wanted to keep all hidden on onf forums instead discussing were everyone can see. You decided all in a very close group of people and when that was not enough and more votes were needed strange fleets like TT or TTF voted, and when i asked for fair and clear votations you invented the rule that referees can vote and the council can vote too ...



For what i recall i was banned because i opened one day onf forums and i saw lj talking crap about fleet, still insisting with the spying thing and accusing us too of using things out of the game for wining HAs. I went in defense of my fleet against all that crap and you banned first sk and after that to me. If you have fun talking crap about other ppl on those forums enjoy it, you made the right decision, now you can flame more comfortably there.



I talked with armada chilena leader and he explained me what happened. Very funny.



About your votations, they were a joke. Read first answer.
About lj making all the decisions and the league biased for jedi, they are your words, not mine.
About league not owned by anyone, as i said in another posts some ppl can't understand that concept. Organizing a fleet league is different to "own" it, different things, very different things.

About the other things you didn't answer ... since you have no answer i have nothing to say :-)

Merry Christmas to all, funny to see 3 or 4 members from the same fleet resurrected this thread at the same time in this date, lol, i guess some ppl dont rest even on christmas.

Have a nice day ^^

Whats with you being so passive aggressive all the time Sk?