"The problem is that doing anything to the border means that if a noob CV that forgot
to control his CV crashes in the rocks, won't be able to launch any planes. All of his
planes will just return the moment he launches them or will have to try and back up.

In some cases, you get stuck in such a way you can no longer back-up your CV nor
move your CV anywhere. I think some CV players know of what am talking about.

So CV's will probably be forced to not move that much, since you might run in danger
of hitting the rocks and bye bye to your plane launching capabilities for 1-2 minutes.

I prefer to lose thanks to bomber humped bombers then to have a CV that is
rendered useless because he wasn't paying attention of controling his CV.

Every second your not sending planes, is a second closer to losing the game.

Just count the amount of CV you see stuck on those rocks and compare it with the
amount of times you see people border hump.

Stuck CV >>>> Border humped bombers."


>>> I do see your point, but a CV really should be paying attention to where they are.
Situational awareness is a large part of the game.

I actually would go as far as to say there are at least the same amount of people, if not
more, that border hump; 99% of all "rock" hitting is at the end of the game.

I like that idea Sylver

The problem is that doing anything to the border means that if a noob CV that forgot
to control his CV crashes in the rocks, won't be able to launch any planes. All of his
planes will just return the moment he launches them or will have to try and back up.

In some cases, you get stuck in such a way you can no longer back-up your CV nor
move your CV anywhere. I think some CV players know of what am talking about.

So CV's will probably be forced to not move that much, since you might run in danger
of hitting the rocks and bye bye to your plane launching capabilities for 1-2 minutes.

I prefer to lose thanks to bomber humped bombers then to have a CV that is
rendered useless because he wasn't paying attention of controling his CV.

Every second your not sending planes, is a second closer to losing the game.

Just count the amount of CV you see stuck on those rocks and compare it with the
amount of times you see people border hump.

Stuck CV >>>> Border humped bombers.

How about this; When a plane hits the border, the plane will not respond to controls for
1 minute, and will automatically return to the owners ship.

Well as a CV player you will slowly develop into playing it right with your CV.

At first sending bombers on the borders is the best option, but as your bombing
skills develop and learn how to avoid fighters, using the border becomes more of a
weakness.

I personally never have problems against border humpers. border humping DB's are
usually more far apart and fly at max altitude. So they are easy to AA, and for a cv
player that is constantly loading planes and watching it's CV every 20 seconds,
border humping is easy to spot.

Sadly 90% of CV don't play that way. They load their planes after they lost all their
planes and never watch their BB line or own CV.(too busy controling FP)

If the enemy decides to send it's DB all the way down and waste his time just to
bomb 1 ship, his team will probably lose because of that. Time is a crucial factor
playing CV.

What should be implemented is a warning system just like "warning torpedo in sight"
or "getting out of border" warnings. Everytime a bomber comes into contact with the
border and remain there, a warning should be given to the enemy team. As long as
the bombers remain there, the enemy will be warned of border humping DB/TB.

That way, it will be the responsibility of friendly AA and CV ships to be aware of the
borders once the warning is given.

This is probably easier to implement too.

As its allowed by NF, most BW CV drivers arent stupid enough to put handicap on
themselves by thinking on ethic, they just use that valid strategy (according to SDE) to
their
adventage.

Its something we all have to learn to live with, whining for 3 years havent got us any
results, so start thinking how to use it to your adventage or how to avoid it, because most
BW CVs will use it to their adventage as long as its allowed.

Something that the game allows and the mod team allows its not a exploit in the game,
its
just a game mechanic that we have to deal with.

its like OMG UK ARMOR ITS TOO OP! THEY ARE GLITCHING!... no, its just a mechanic the
UK
uses.

The point being, dont whine to CVs, whine to SDE, CVs are just using the best strat the
have avalible.

What is so hard since the current game have this feature?
They can just copy paste from mission to GB.
But then, SDE will say that we won't have time, when they have time to create and messed
up the game much more such the ss5.

As a CV driver, still leveling up, what I have found is if the oppossing team
likes to border hump their bombers I need a team mate to let me know. I can
then start parking a fighter or two on border....all it takes is one or two fighters
to take down a whole flight of bombers. I recently had a BB player yelling at
me in a game because he got bombed into oblivion by a border humper cv
team, yet no one bothered to tell the cvs on our team about this.

Personally I expect to play with some sense of honor and those I play with to
do that same, but from all my years of gaming there is always someone
choosing to exploit the mechanics or limits of the game for personal gain, glory
or recognition. With this in mind, once I identify a cheater I tend to avoid
playing with them when I can. I do have a choice and I exercise it.

Plus that now bombers can load faster, travel further and Ottaku-esque mirco management is
more wide spread.

Game has moved on since then Jester. As much as I wish we could go back to days of All
Welcomes with competent CV players, it just isn't a reality anymore...

These days, you are VERY lucky if you get ONE decent CV on a team, and if you go North
there is an almost continual stream of BW Border Humping CVs while you play.