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  • Issue over KM Range Nerf... (and other issues?)

    10. 18. 2010 13:30

snow_ball
We all know KM has had it's range (possibly) nerfed from what it used to be. There
are those who think KM's range has been nerfed too much, and there are those that
think it's fine how it is. But all KM really seems to have going for it IS its range, and
maybe its speed (or atleast it used to have speed; i cant personally say anything
about the speed, since i havent really payed much attention to the speed compared
to other nations.)

So it's my suggestion for KM's range to be bumbed up a bit, becuase KM does
have the worst shell damage and spread, and all it has is its range. EDIT: IM more
towards other edits listed below, over the range, and either one of the fixes can
solve the possible issues.

BUT I CANNOT fully stand behind this, since I only have an H39 and have had the
H44 rental. But in the time i had the H44 rental, i noticed the range wasnt as good...
you should be able to out range a L2, monthy, or SY and not have them be able to
be in range with just a small movement up, OR barely moving at all.

SO, please give reasons and examples for WHY or WHY NOT KM's range is too
nerfed, and if you think KM's range needs to be bumped up a bit, reccomend it.

*side note: since i can't fully argue this point, there is no reason to flame, say
anything negative, or anything like that to me. Just give your reasons and examples
for or against the KM range nerf, and (if needed) argue your point's amongst the
others.*
*another side note: i have been more swaded to the turnning force, shell
damage/ shell damage inconsistancies being fixed, or speed being adjusted. If any
of those are adjusted, the range shouldn't be an issue. I will just keep the origional
idea for others.*

EDIT:
From what i have read, it seems to be a 50/50 split over the range issue compared
to the other nations. Some have quoted the skill needed to run KM, which is a valid
point. Km is harder to suceed in, and that could be the part of the issue. While
others have quoted how when facing another BB5 in an H44, they can be hit easily.
Which is another good point, if KM is supposed to have the best range, why doesn't
the H44 match up with that standard?

*The topic of shell damage has come up, which can be possibly
bumped up, or atleast discussed.

*The Topic of ship turnning force come up aswell, this can be discussed and possibly
changed aswell.

*The idea of increasing speed instead has been tossed arround aswell.

Range issue has been well covered. Try moving on to the other issues... like the
inconsistancies in the shell damage, turnning force, and possibly other issues?
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  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 10:41

Pitt_Possum
The thing is ppl that obviously have way more expirience with the nation then you, get
completely ignored by you. You just dont want to hear anyone that is not your opinion and
make up bogus facts.

There is no point in discussing here anything, as you are not able to comprehend what
other ppl say.

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 10:23

jhempsrt4
I have played a friends H44 a lot, and always felt in control of gbs. I had several 200k plus games, and some
close to 300k. The H44 is not a fail ship like some say. I think it is better than the Alsace.

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 10:22

Callidius
What has become a simple suggestion by KM fans has become a forum war...
brilliance...

Yall have stated no, now unless you can stop calling people retards and make
logical and mature conversation please leave this topic, thank you. I'm sure a lot
of people would agree with me.

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 10:08

snow_ball
Pitt_Possum, please dont flame. there is good debate going on about this, let's keep
it clean

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 09:36

Pitt_Possum
the retards just need to admit that km is not a retard friendly nation, and move on,
problem solved.

And they are special, shown by the guy how claims Monty can hit h44 full if running side
by side.

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 09:30

ljsevern
"km does need a range buff theres something wrong when i am in my h44 with the
longest range guns it can carry and light shells paralell with a monty and it is landing
shells on my deck at my max angle hmm isnt monty lowest range bb5 in game ???
something wrong there so BUFF KM RANGE"

>>> You are wrong.

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"I just really have an issue with H44, like many people have stated before H39 is
an awsome BB4, probally even the best. It has the range of Montana in a BB4 and
really thats the kinda range advantage H44 needs over its peers.

Lol to ljsevern Those are pics of a MONTANA oneshoting other ships... can you go
fetch me some vids and screenies of a Montana or L2 getting oneshoted by a
Super Yammy or H44?"

>>> I know exactly what they are. L2, SY and H44 can't one shot stuff without criticals.
KM has never been about damage. If the H44 has enough range and damage, it just
needs the damage consistency bugs sorted, and a turning force buff. I know this because
I have SY, L2, H44 and Montana. I have 120 gunners for all the nations except IJN which
are 119.

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 09:21

Unholy122
I just want the shell fix for H44.


Also, to the guy above me... Super Yamato's hit nearly as hard as L2s do.. Problem usually
lies with the sometimes random spread..

Also, I've gotten 40k shots in H44 before..

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 09:11

Callidius
I just really have an issue with H44, like many people have stated before H39 is
an awsome BB4, probally even the best. It has the range of Montana in a BB4 and
really thats the kinda range advantage H44 needs over its peers.

Lol to ljsevern Those are pics of a MONTANA oneshoting other ships... can you go
fetch me some vids and screenies of a Montana or L2 getting oneshoted by a
Super Yammy or H44?

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 08:56

ko1078
km does need a range buff theres something wrong when i am in my h44 with the
longest range guns it can carry and light shells paralell with a monty and it is landing
shells on my deck at my max angle hmm isnt monty lowest range bb5 in game ???
something wrong there so BUFF KM RANGE

  • Re : Issue over KM Range Nerf...

    10. 19. 2010 08:51

ljsevern
I played H39 in BB1-5 rooms, and regularly got in the top 3 attacks in my team.