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  • NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 17. 2011 18:37

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pulposolohay
Due the total failure that has been the nebraska fleet league, I think that we must to cancel it inmeadiatly and begin another one more atracctive.

I think that a good fleet league in this server shuld have, at least, 15 fleets.

Continuing in this way will penalize our server in next NF CUP... SURE.

 

 

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 17. 2011 18:56


SiriusA
Y U So History Channel?

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 17. 2011 20:29


Rehor
So do it.

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 17. 2011 23:02


nyerkovicfm
There are a lot of people from various fleets working to make that Fleet League happen and it's a lot of work, all of which is done voluntarily.

If you think that it needs to be canceled and begin another one, then please also volunteer yourself to help make it happen. No one will do it if they get no help.

I agree that it would be more attractive to have more Fleets participating, but Fleets are not forced to play the Fleet League, they do it voluntarily, so there will always be some fleets that are not going to participate and each of them has their own reasons.

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 17. 2011 23:56


V2CxBongRipz
If more people were willing to volunteer time we wouldnt have the problems we have been having.

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 18. 2011 05:38


ljsevern
You never even entered it. Just because you didn't like your precious T5 scouts and T3/4 subs being limited/not allowed.

Learn to adjust to balanced content.

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 18. 2011 08:23


joshmon999
Yeah, pulp, SS3 and 4 are so OP it's INSANE.... you're lucky you're even allowed to have SS2, those are OP like crazy too! They could allow SS3 and 4, but then they would have to include an ASW contingent in the Order of Battle, and that is , like, way too much to ask. Everyone knows SS rule GB due to OPness, not the fact there isn't any kind of dedicated, coordinated ASW. Even though 4 non prem ASW Ships can cover the entire field well, and can decimate any amount of SS that try to get through, that means we would have to evolve fleet tactics to account for SS, and that is, like, way too much work. How would you feel if you were blasting away with your BB6 and had to turn, or call for ASW, or stop shooting for a sec? Not cool, brah. Appreciate the work done on your behalf by these humble volunteers, or create a fleet league that encompasses all the content the game has to offer yourself.

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 18. 2011 08:40


Humberto20
Problems always happens, Old or new leagues, it will be there. Like Nyerkkovic said, the best way to make a strong league, its by having volunteers. The only issue i see, is the communication.

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 18. 2011 10:05


joshmon999
Originally Posted by Humberto20

Problems always happens, Old or new leagues, it will be there. Like Nyerkkovic said, the best way to make a strong league, its by having volunteers. The only issue i see, is the communication.

In all seriousness, I don't think a lot of the smaller fleet, who could use the fleet league for practice at fleet play, and communication, etc, do not really feel like they have any say or input, maybe the situation isn't proactive enough?
i.e "Dude, you are leader of fleet "insert fleet name" . The fleet league would like you to come battle, and hone your skills for HA. Are you in?" Maybe the issue is that some just need a kick in the ***.

I think if more of them joined, we would have a bigger pool of people willing to volunteer. I also just realized in making this post that even I need to stfu about how this is run until I, too, am willing or able to provide some sort of actual support. Guys who won't help make it run have no place saying where it goes, lol. It's like a hitch hiker trying to tell the person who picked them up how to drive. SO , until things change substantially, there really aren't a lot of people who are even entitled to an opinion on how Fleet League is run.

The roster isnt that hard to fill out, and even if you can't fully fill it out to max potential, you could still sub weaker ships and play anyway. If we could get all the smaller fleets to come in, I think it would be good for NF on so many levels, promoting a more connected community, giving us something to talk about on the forums besides the rather humorous semi-flaming that goes on now, letting s get to actually know each other as players, and not forum personalities. I think if everyone got to know each other better, we would realize that we're all just a bunch of guys ho like video games, and the guy you love to hate maybe isn't such a bad guy.

Perhaps we could do a special quarterly event where me make teams of 2 randomly drawn fleets for each side for a single elimination one-day tournament? That would be interesting to see, given the histories of some fleets with each other, lol, but I think, on some level , therapeutic.

Just my thoughts on the subject. Don't be hatin' =)


*Fixed Format - Ny*

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 18. 2011 12:45


Cracko
Originally Posted by Humberto20

Problems always happens, Old or new leagues, it will be there. Like Nyerkkovic said, the best way to make a strong league, its by having volunteers. The only issue i see, is the communication.


-Comunication is hard with certain kind of people that in his own words "are right 99% of the times" or say that they are "happy with the league being small" and finally ban you from their forums. Treating valid people with these words and attitudes is not the best way to looking for fleets or volunteers but i was unable to make understand that to the league organizators.

-Apart from comunication there is also the issue of the good organization what is hard with so few fleets/ppl involved as organizators wanted, maybe some people are very good at writing 20 posts at a day in these forums but organizating a league requires another kind of aptitudes.

-Both things, comunication and organization are very important for a sucessfull fleet league and this one didnt have them. I miss the last MOFL with tons of ppl involved, referee rooms with 20 ppl each weekend, and like 20 fleets playing it. Btw, just as a note, with 20 fleets noone said anything about CS fleet (organizators) being biased for favouring themselves or friendly fleets.

-Anyways you never read what i wrote there, never hear me or sk, didn't publicite league on this forums, deciding rules in a very private circle, put complicated rules making refereing very hard job, nerf SSs, nerf scouts, nerf Fps, nerf whatever old players don't know how to use, play exactly like 3 years ago because everything added to game in 3 years is unbalanced. Do the things at your way without hearing other people .... well, now results speak by themselves. I never made you understand certain things and im not going to do it now.

-New league? Well, if SDE gives the double of the prices for a league with the double of fleets, the double of people involved and double better organized i know many people that would be happy to make it happen. But we will have plenty of time for discuss that when this one ends, not much time for that it seems.

  • Re : NEW FLEET LEAGUE IN NEBRASKA, PLEASE

    12. 19. 2011 07:02


SylverXI
Originally Posted by nyerkovicfm

There are a lot of people from various fleets working to make that Fleet League happen and it's a lot of work, all of which is done voluntarily.

If you think that it needs to be canceled and begin another one, then please also volunteer yourself to help make it happen. No one will do it if they get no help.

I agree that it would be more attractive to have more Fleets participating, but Fleets are not forced to play the Fleet League, they do it voluntarily, so there will always be some fleets that are not going to participate and each of them has their own reasons.


People where always willing to help make a new one and it was also the case with the current one as well. Some decided it was best not to include these volunteers(by banning and bad mouthing them) and look at where it got them. The problems this FL is facing were predicted and ignored.

The rules are a joke, because a group of 4/5 fleets + the same lj's circle of friends voted as well. So they decided on the same ol rules of the past + some more to make referee's work look like a REAL work. Like I said, it's hard work, because they made a game into a piece of work and they ask themselves why nobody volunteers.

There are ppl willing to organize a FL. Don't let people tell you otherwise. MO alone had 20 fleets who participated, ask yourself why less then 20 fleets applied for a merged server FL. The answer is simply because some preferred it that way.


*Edit: Removed remarks that can induce to flaming - Ny*

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