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  • Border Humping - a new solution

    07. 10. 2011 19:36

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RafaelZ28
 I know I know, it already had many topics here, but I'll post a possible solution to this inconvenient habit of some players.

Border humping for those unfamiliar, is a means by which bombers move their CVaround the edges of the map, becoming invisible to the friendly fighters and AAbatteries, which is a great advantage since attacked the ships are most vulnerable, with little chance of defense.

My suggestion does not involve a ban of this practice for players only:

1 - A warning to the player that his planes are out of the map, warning that in 10 sec

 

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 02:45


xXZondaXx
i have a better solution:

why not SDE do something to prevent high lvl CV's (like lvl 80+ or higher like 90) from border humping. wouldn't that be a better solution?

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 04:27


ljsevern
Originally Posted by xXZondaXx

i have a better solution:

why not SDE do something to prevent high lvl CV's (like lvl 80+ or higher like 90) from border humping. wouldn't that be a better solution?


Originally Posted by xXZondaXx

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by xXZondaXx

@aingeal

there are several times in WW2 where the bombers was not spotted until the last moment like in pearl harbor and that is my point imagine border humping like pearl harbor and do your magic and use your skills to avoid them. see i gave u an example of a real life "border humping" which is pearl harbor. and do not take me literally here but pearl harbor resembles the idea of border humping and not seeing the bombers until the last minute.


* Edited to remove personal attacks - Ny*


Wondering how you went in personnal insult.

Earth doesnt have border, its round. There are no place where you have a unable to see zone on Earth.

Sneaking and being cunning is something, doing so by using a physical engine bug is another.

Your argument is invalid, there is no possible comparison to be made between game engine and Earth's physics.



Sneaking your planes near the border is something. Past them is another.


aingeal since CV's in no way can sneak their planes like the japs did in pearl harbor so sometimes they use the border to do so. and when i say so i mean that the border is compensating for not being able to sneak ur DBs . so all iam saying is that when SDE do something about the border then all the new CVer's DBs will be eaten by T4's, so i see the border as an opportunity for those who is play CVs and still at low lvl.

and do not get me wrong iam not saying that those who juststarted to play CVs r noobs or anything i mean most of them are very experianced but what about those who have no idea how to play CVs i mean they just started it and they do not want to get their DBs eaten by T4's or T3's.

and this is my opinion.


Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it is correct. Pearl harbour has nothing to do with border humping bombers.

And complaining about low level players not being able to do anything. They can. They just need to learn to use the gaps in fighter coverage. They should read guides. They should ask players. They can play Blitz from 1-60.

Its a level based game, T4 fighters should eat low level bombers.

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 06:49


xXZondaXx
what ever ljsevern or aingeal u obviously trying to make this game as easy as possible u might as well ask SDE to give exp for free and save the players the trouble of actually playing and earning the exp.

so suit urself but i think fixing border humping so that u guys could make it eaiser for u to play will make this game loss one of its fun sides. the surprise side!

i will never recommend such topic as it is obviously for players who can't dodge DBs and just want to play and have it as easy as possible.

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 07:49


ljsevern
Originally Posted by xXZondaXx

what ever ljsevern or aingeal u obviously trying to make this game as easy as possible u might as well ask SDE to give exp for free and save the players the trouble of actually playing and earning the exp.

so suit urself but i think fixing border humping so that u guys could make it eaiser for u to play will make this game loss one of its fun sides. the surprise side!

i will never recommend such topic as it is obviously for players who can't dodge DBs and just want to play and have it as easy as possible.


Erm, how is us wanting border humping fixed making the game easier?

You clearly haven't ever played the competitive side of the game have you?

Keep flaming and not discussing the issue.

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 08:21


bobdadog
people just dont get it. Whether border humping is right or wrong, (there was a similar suggestion on the old forums which gms responded to) it is impossible for the devs to code a solution atm. That is why in refereed events when specified it is illegal, because people can actually see it.

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 08:24


xXZondaXx
ljsevern iam deeply sorry if i have flamed you i didn't mean to do that, but all iam saying is this is available in the battle why not use it to ensure your teams winning if u use it it doesn't make u a cheater at all. and please please not that i have not even one FP or DB in my account which tells you that if iam defending BH is not for a reason i just see it not a big problem. and by the way my opinion maybe correct maybe not but as you can see iam the only one not minding BH in this thread so me defending border humping will not make a difference as SDE will go with the majority but i just felt like mentioning my opinion. that's all

again iam sorry if you felt iam flaming you or aingeal

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 08:31


nyerkovic
Originally Posted by xXZondaXx

...all iam saying is this is available in the battle why not use it to ensure your teams winning if u use it it doesn't make u a cheater at all...


It is only available in the battle because of a glitch in the game. It was never intended for people to be able to do it.
GMs have said that and also has TNF. That is why it's illegal in competitions.

Just a clarification :)

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 08:56


xXZondaXx
ok if it is illegal in competitions how about normal battles?

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 09:35


ljsevern
Originally Posted by bobdadog

people just dont get it. Whether border humping is right or wrong, (there was a similar suggestion on the old forums which gms responded to) it is impossible for the devs to code a solution atm. That is why in refereed events when specified it is illegal, because people can actually see it.


It is possible for the dev's to code a solution...

  • Re : Border Humping - a new solution

    09. 21. 2011 11:48


aingeal
Originally Posted by xXZondaXx

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by xXZondaXx

@aingeal

there are several times in WW2 where the bombers was not spotted until the last moment like in pearl harbor and that is my point imagine border humping like pearl harbor and do your magic and use your skills to avoid them. see i gave u an example of a real life "border humping" which is pearl harbor. and do not take me literally here but pearl harbor resembles the idea of border humping and not seeing the bombers until the last minute.


* Edited to remove personal attacks - Ny*


Wondering how you went in personnal insult.

Earth doesnt have border, its round. There are no place where you have a unable to see zone on Earth.

Sneaking and being cunning is something, doing so by using a physical engine bug is another.

Your argument is invalid, there is no possible comparison to be made between game engine and Earth's physics.



Sneaking your planes near the border is something. Past them is another.


aingeal since CV's in no way can sneak their planes like the japs did in pearl harbor so sometimes they use the border to do so. and when i say so i mean that the border is compensating for not being able to sneak ur DBs . so all iam saying is that when SDE do something about the border then all the new CVer's DBs will be eaten by T4's, so i see the border as an opportunity for those who is play CVs and still at low lvl.

and do not get me wrong iam not saying that those who juststarted to play CVs r noobs or anything i mean most of them are very experianced but what about those who have no idea how to play CVs i mean they just started it and they do not want to get their DBs eaten by T4's or T3's.

and this is my opinion.


How exactly do you figure it can't be done? I have a player in mind who always managed to suddenly have a wave of TB appear at your arse, CVs always failed to intercept them, and NEVER was he going even close to the border.

He constantly micro-managed them tough.


And to put a final point at your pearl harbor argument, planes WERE spotted but ignored. War declaration actually came after the attack you know.

Originally Posted by xXZondaXx
what ever ljsevern or aingeal u obviously trying to make this game as easy as possible u might as well ask SDE to give exp for free and save the players the trouble of actually playing and earning the exp.

so suit urself but i think fixing border humping so that u guys could make it eaiser for u to play will make this game loss one of its fun sides. the surprise side!

i will never recommend such topic as it is obviously for players who can't dodge DBs and just want to play and have it as easy as possible.


In fact, I believe its you who is trying to make this game as easy as possible, by giving planes a way to travel with no counter.

It requires absolutely no skill to click on a border. It does to navigate them in battle avoiding attention, or at least fighter. You can still, if you judge it useful, get them to navigate close to the border, without actually going off map.

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