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  • How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 06. 2011 15:16

Recommend : 3

Eradicator1
Make BB spread get less accurate the further it is fired. Instead of having a death zone when one gets in range of a BB, make it so that it gets harder to one shot  as range increases.

So for example, if a BB6 fires at max range, his accuracy will be equal to lower level crew. If he fires at a certain threshold (that is lwoer than max angle) he will be able to have full accuracy.
So a BB1/2 could get in range of BB4/5 and fire with a shotgun salvo while BB4/5 will be able to fire with a perfect salvo at a similar range.
This is more realistic and lends to more tactical games. Rushing will be slightly more effective because as you get closer your spread gets better.

Seriously BB rooms and HA tiles are boring because it turns into a game of "turn into the no man's land slightly and instantly die"  This would allow for more forgiveness in the event that a single mistake is made. It would turn from a boring stalemate into something interesting with rushing being an okay strat.

 

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 06:36


hiroito
May I ask you: Have you played with the KM BB12? If BB4 is made of paper and fires flowers, then BB12 are made of rice paper and fires happiness (11" guns anyone?)

Still, that should be by no means a detrimental to your gameplay. Learn to use the advatages that your nation offers you, if that fails then learn to use the advatages that being a BC offers you *Cof* 45 knots *cof*

Do you want to play in a good ship and play range games with big bad BB456? Wait untill you get BB456 (Maybe BB3 with the KM and SN). But don't complain when you are on your Lion 1 and some H39 outranges you, or when a Monty/Richeleu/Alsace/Any other BB4+/Bismark Driver sinks you.

This is a hard game, specially with all the competition that goes on in the BB line. But that is what gives the satisfactory feeling that you get when you finally reach a BB4.

TL;DR: Man up, learn to use your advantages, don't whine.

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 06:41


hiroito
BTW, what nation are you using?

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 07:50


ciscodelorum
If you want more players,

You would put more money into advertising,
Add More Ships for each nation (We are already doing that!)
Host More World-Wide Events.

But This does kinda seem unfair for players like me, who made it through the Alaska/Guam/New Mex 45'.


The amount of elitism on this forum makes me SICK, new players might not be aware of how to play the game to its full extent, but....THATS WHAT VETS ARE THERE FOR.....
we would need to teach our new players (Via Guides, Videos, or the old way of one-shotting him until he decides rushing is a bad idea.)

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 10:38


Eradicator1
Originally Posted by hiroito

TL;DR: Man up, learn to use your advantages, don't whine.

Hard to use your advantages when you don't have any.

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 12:24


KingCong
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Hm let's see I can shoot you when you can't shoot me.
Moreover I can kill you in one shot.

Without you being able to fire back.

Balance


level based game and you expect equal capability across tiers. suggest you find a new game before going around trying to change this one.

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 13:43


Eradicator1
Originally Posted by KingCong

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Hm let's see I can shoot you when you can't shoot me.
Moreover I can kill you in one shot.

Without you being able to fire back.

Balance


level based game and you expect equal capability across tiers. suggest you find a new game before going around trying to change this one.

Not equal capability, equal opportunity.

If your argument was to have any validity then we would have to remove blitz because if we don't then BB6s don't get to assert their superiority over CAs, DDs, FFs

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 14:32


aingeal
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by maykel

Originally Posted by Eradicator1


Lyon is one of the exceptions rather than the rule. It's relatively small and does huge salvo damage.

Try doing that in a New Mexico or Repulse.


I've also done it in a Pennsylvania, went to Nor Car line on BB3 you see, both are hard at level but doable, (you know, pick your shots and be aware of your surroundings) and why are you posting an exception now when the title, copied from your post is "Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB" I don't think your title has Lyon exempted right? It is still a BB2.

That doesn't stop the fact that every other BB = nope


Gneisenau, Fuso, O1, Colorado, penn43, QE, IM.

Shall I continue or you are realizing how wrong you are?

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by heatrr

If people can go through GBs in a CA and PCA and get 3-5 times in attack as the displacement of their CA/PCA,

Are you high?


Want more, let me know.
How you ever made HOF is beyond me..... =.=


Account was sold lately. Original eradicator was a good enough CV player. This one namely said he didn't have a CV in some other thread.


Are you accusing me of doing something illegal?

If so just leave please



I am. And I'm not hiding it. I'm sure you have tons of reasons to explain this and that, but I knew the original erad1, and you are not him as far as I'm concerned. Unless you want to ask for an IP check to prove me wrong?

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 14:42


aingeal
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by KingCong

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Hm let's see I can shoot you when you can't shoot me.
Moreover I can kill you in one shot.

Without you being able to fire back.

Balance


level based game and you expect equal capability across tiers. suggest you find a new game before going around trying to change this one.

Not equal capability, equal opportunity.

If your argument was to have any validity then we would have to remove blitz because if we don't then BB6s don't get to assert their superiority over CAs, DDs, FFs


looking over many level based game, NF offers among the best opportunities for lower level ships to take on higher level ones. In many case, game developpers hit the lower level character with tons of restriction when targeting an higher level one. Not in NF.

And his argument is still valid, as it was addressing the difference between tier capacity, and never even got close to how the game modes pit ship versus each others. Never it was question about farming DDs with BB6s, but addressing the BB6 have more capabilities than the DD, since one is lvl 12 and the other level 120.


Range is important, but its not all. As I said, but you keep ignoring argument that you find nothing to say against, preferring basic insults to counter the individual who brought them, you can play with many other tools, namely sneaking, etc.

Of course more experienced players will yield better results. But the ship capabilities are there, and its up to the player to learn how to use them, to maximize his results.

With every single BB2 I had, I went over 150k. No exception. With many I went over 200k, in regular BB45 dominated GBs.

Stop trying to spoonfeed noobs to BB6. They can all improve, and if they don't want to, then they don't care. If they don't care, well they are having fun as it is, and won't leave the game because of this.

YOUR argument is invalid, as much as we consider it ever was one, seeing as it was more of a random sentence with no backing your keep throwing around.

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 15:02


Eradicator1
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Are you high?


Want more, let me know.
How you ever made HOF is beyond me..... =.=


Account was sold lately. Original eradicator was a good enough CV player. This one namely said he didn't have a CV in some other thread.


Are you accusing me of doing something illegal?

If so just leave please



I am. And I'm not hiding it. I'm sure you have tons of reasons to explain this and that, but I knew the original erad1, and you are not him as far as I'm concerned. Unless you want to ask for an IP check to prove me wrong?
[/QUOTE]
Again, if you're going to accuse me of doing something illegal you best leave or take it up with SDE.

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by KingCong

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Hm let's see I can shoot you when you can't shoot me.
Moreover I can kill you in one shot.

Without you being able to fire back.

Balance


level based game and you expect equal capability across tiers. suggest you find a new game before going around trying to change this one.

Not equal capability, equal opportunity.

If your argument was to have any validity then we would have to remove blitz because if we don't then BB6s don't get to assert their superiority over CAs, DDs, FFs


looking over many level based game, NF offers among the best opportunities for lower level ships to take on higher level ones. In many case, game developpers hit the lower level character with tons of restriction when targeting an higher level one. Not in NF.

And his argument is still valid, as it was addressing the difference between tier capacity, and never even got close to how the game modes pit ship versus each others. Never it was question about farming DDs with BB6s, but addressing the BB6 have more capabilities than the DD, since one is lvl 12 and the other level 120.

Range is important, but its not all. As I said, but you keep ignoring argument that you find nothing to say against, preferring basic insults to counter the individual who brought them, you can play with many other tools, namely sneaking, etc.

Of course more experienced players will yield better results. But the ship capabilities are there, and its up to the player to learn how to use them, to maximize his results.

With every single BB2 I had, I went over 150k. No exception. With many I went over 200k, in regular BB45 dominated GBs.

Stop trying to spoonfeed noobs to BB6. They can all improve, and if they don't want to, then they don't care. If they don't care, well they are having fun as it is, and won't leave the game because of this.

YOUR argument is invalid, as much as we consider it ever was one, seeing as it was more of a random sentence with no backing your keep throwing around.

Sure you can, but can new players to the game do it?
The nerf would apply to EVERY ship class not just BB6s as you conceited players believe

  • Re : How to give BB1/2 a chance in GB

    10. 09. 2011 15:22


aingeal
Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Are you high?


Want more, let me know.
How you ever made HOF is beyond me..... =.=


Account was sold lately. Original eradicator was a good enough CV player. This one namely said he didn't have a CV in some other thread.


Are you accusing me of doing something illegal?

If so just leave please



I am. And I'm not hiding it. I'm sure you have tons of reasons to explain this and that, but I knew the original erad1, and you are not him as far as I'm concerned. Unless you want to ask for an IP check to prove me wrong?

Again, if you're going to accuse me of doing something illegal you best leave or take it up with SDE.

Originally Posted by aingeal

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Originally Posted by KingCong

Originally Posted by Eradicator1

Hm let's see I can shoot you when you can't shoot me.
Moreover I can kill you in one shot.

Without you being able to fire back.

Balance


level based game and you expect equal capability across tiers. suggest you find a new game before going around trying to change this one.

Not equal capability, equal opportunity.

If your argument was to have any validity then we would have to remove blitz because if we don't then BB6s don't get to assert their superiority over CAs, DDs, FFs


looking over many level based game, NF offers among the best opportunities for lower level ships to take on higher level ones. In many case, game developpers hit the lower level character with tons of restriction when targeting an higher level one. Not in NF.

And his argument is still valid, as it was addressing the difference between tier capacity, and never even got close to how the game modes pit ship versus each others. Never it was question about farming DDs with BB6s, but addressing the BB6 have more capabilities than the DD, since one is lvl 12 and the other level 120.

Range is important, but its not all. As I said, but you keep ignoring argument that you find nothing to say against, preferring basic insults to counter the individual who brought them, you can play with many other tools, namely sneaking, etc.

Of course more experienced players will yield better results. But the ship capabilities are there, and its up to the player to learn how to use them, to maximize his results.

With every single BB2 I had, I went over 150k. No exception. With many I went over 200k, in regular BB45 dominated GBs.

Stop trying to spoonfeed noobs to BB6. They can all improve, and if they don't want to, then they don't care. If they don't care, well they are having fun as it is, and won't leave the game because of this.

YOUR argument is invalid, as much as we consider it ever was one, seeing as it was more of a random sentence with no backing your keep throwing around.

Sure you can, but can new players to the game do it?
The nerf would apply to EVERY ship class not just BB6s as you conceited players believe
[/QUOTE]

I'm sending you back to first page.

How do you balance the game now that range got nuked, which was a key element of game balance?

How the heck does it makes it easier for a BB1 to rush in knife-range fight in order to get attack?

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