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  • NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 14. 2012 22:38

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Maistral
NF Fixer is pretty much an "AA macro" which tolerates AA spamming, while only changing angles, making players fire at planes easier.

In the words of a co-forumer, you shouldn't use a hotdog chewing machine in order to win.

You should chew the hotdog yourself.

 

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 23. 2012 09:29


Bart133
All I have to say is:

All the AA function in NF Fixer does is send repeated keypresses when you hold down the spacebar, so the game thinks you're pressing spacebar really fast instead of just holding it down. That's all. No automated angle changing, no accessing the game files or data, nothing. Just spamming the spacebar.

It's functionality that should've been built into the game in the first place - I'd bet that the reason guns stop firing when you turn them with the spacebar held down is that SDE didn't program that bit right, not that they intended from the start to make you hit spacebar every time you press a key.


And a player without NF Fixer can achieve the exact same effect by hitting spacebar really fast. Is that any kind of skill? No, it's being able to hit the spacebar really fast. Sure, NF Fixer lets you change the angles while firing, so your Moltke can occasionally get hits on planes that are trying to dodge. But KM already takes the skill out of AA.


NF Fixer doesn't automate anything except the spacebar. It's hardly a bot - it doesn't change the amount of required player input at all.

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 23. 2012 10:35


jf03
Originally Posted by Lionel2

Bottom line is that macros are illegal. NFfixer is a macro and is thus illegal. I am getting a chuckle out of the people in here defending it. Must be all the cheaters.

So if it doesn't do anything for you, why care if its gone?????


So sad the way you are acting.... to accusse everyone as a cheater cos NFE does not iniclude on the main program a function that should b included is really sad.... just agree that ppl are entitled to think in a different way that you and wait to see how many players recommend this will be enough... no need tio act like you are doing cos you are only driving ppl away from the suggestion

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 23. 2012 13:49


BlackGunner
Frankly, in the end, it doesn't matter how us as players think. The fact is that regardless of how you try to 'explain' or 'justify' it; it is a third party program that is not included in the game client itself, and is therefore illegal.

No matter what perspective you attempt to look at it from; the fact remains that it is 'not' authorized by the Navyfield EULA that you agreed to (and agree to every time you log in to Navyfield (That little 'accept' button)) and by using it you are violating your legal standing as a Navyfield account holder.

You can use every excuse, half-thought-out justification, and arguement you like; the End User License Agreement is absolute. It was put in place to define exactly what you can and can't do, and can not be 'bought out' or 'persuaded'. It is what it is, it's decisions are final and absolute.

This is the way the world works. Law is indefinite. Trying to bull... the system never works.

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 23. 2012 21:07


Lionel2
Originally Posted by jf03

Originally Posted by Lionel2

Bottom line is that macros are illegal. NFfixer is a macro and is thus illegal. I am getting a chuckle out of the people in here defending it. Must be all the cheaters.

So if it doesn't do anything for you, why care if its gone?????


So sad the way you are acting.... to accusse everyone as a cheater cos NFE does not iniclude on the main program a function that should b included is really sad.... just agree that ppl are entitled to think in a different way that you and wait to see how many players recommend this will be enough... no need tio act like you are doing cos you are only driving ppl away from the suggestion


So sad the way you are acting. The rules say no macros that means no macros. Guess you are using it too. Feeling offended?

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 23. 2012 23:38


Bart133
Originally Posted by BlackGunner

Frankly, in the end, it doesn't matter how us as players think. The fact is that regardless of how you try to 'explain' or 'justify' it; it is a third party program that is not included in the game client itself, and is therefore illegal.

No matter what perspective you attempt to look at it from; the fact remains that it is 'not' authorized by the Navyfield EULA that you agreed to (and agree to every time you log in to Navyfield (That little 'accept' button)) and by using it you are violating your legal standing as a Navyfield account holder.

You can use every excuse, half-thought-out justification, and arguement you like; the End User License Agreement is absolute. It was put in place to define exactly what you can and can't do, and can not be 'bought out' or 'persuaded'. It is what it is, it's decisions are final and absolute.

This is the way the world works. Law is indefinite. Trying to bull... the system never works.

You clearly have no experience with the real world.

And what do you think about the fact that the game moderation has tolerated NF-Fixer ever since its creation, let players post links to it on the official forums, and even left forum topics about it stand?

Originally Posted by Lionel2

So sad the way you are acting. The rules say no macros that means no macros. Guess you are using it too. Feeling offended?

Resorting to something like that is just like admitting that you have nothing better to say, because the argument you're trying to make is a nonsensical crock of... something.

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 24. 2012 05:58


ZaGaTo19
if you live in the real world you should know that being allowed is not the same thing that being right
we are just asking SDE to respect their own EULA


Originally Posted by BlackGunner

Possible Applicable EULA Portions:
( Source: http://navyfield.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=27&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=&sort=5&category=C01&page1=1 )

B. Only SD EnterNet or its licensees have the right to host Navy Field. Accordingly,
you may not host, provide matchmaking services for, or emulate or redirect the
communication protocols used by SD EnterNets part of Navy Field, regardless of the
method used to do so. Such prohibited methods may include, but are not limited to,
protocol emulation, tunneling, reverse engineering, modifying Navy Field, adding
components to Navy Field, or using a utility program to host Navy Field.

C. You may not modify Navy Field to change game play, including, but not limited to,
the creation of cheats and/or hacks, nor may you use any third-party software which
is running at the same time as Navy Field that accesses files which are part of Navy
Field, for any reason whatsoever. Additionally, you may not utilize any "packet
sniffing" software, regardless of the operating system utilized by such software and
regardless of whether or not such tools are running on the same computer as the
Navy Field software or any computer connected to the Navy Field software or its
network, or otherwise monitor Navy Field's network connection while you or anyone
else is playing Navy Field.

F. You may not modify any files which SD EnterNet does not specifically authorize you
to modify.

(vi) Use bots or other automated techniques to collect information or communicate or
post any user's personal information in or on Navy Field, or websites or forums
related to Navy Field or SD EnterNet.

(viii) Cheat during game play, including but not limited to modification of the game
program files.

(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available,
or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.

(ii) All connections to Navy Field, whether created by the SD EnterNet software
products or by other tools and utilities, may only be made through methods and
means expressly approved by SD EnterNet. Under no circumstances may you
connect, or create tools that allow you to connect, to Navy Field's private binary
interface or interfaces other than those explicitly provided by SD EnterNet for your
use.

(iii) You may not use any tools which hack or alter the Navy Field client or server
software.

(iv) You may not use software products which "packet sniff" or provide scripting
and/or macroing to obtain information from Navy Field to gain a competitive
advantage over other players.

(v) You may not do anything that SD EnterNet considers contrary to the "essence" of
Navy Field.

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 24. 2012 06:58


lavitias
Never used it because it's really not that hard to let go of the spacebar and move my gun angles a smidge to start shooting again. Often it doesn't even seem l like i stopped shooting. But to be fair the game should allow it anyway. As it is kinda broken.

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 24. 2012 09:40


Bart133
Originally Posted by ZaGaTo19

if you live in the real world you should know that being allowed is not the same thing that being right
we are just asking SDE to respect their own EULA

Mind pointing out which part of the EULA NF Fixer violates then?

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 24. 2012 10:54


BlackGunner
Please. Read the previous posts, people. I've posted the possible EULA Violations two or three times already.
Originally Posted by Blackgunner

Originally Posted by Bart133

Originally Posted by ZaGaTo19

if you live in the real world you should know that being allowed is not the same thing that being right
we are just asking SDE to respect their own EULA

Mind pointing out which part of the EULA NF Fixer violates then?


Possible Applicable EULA Portions:
( Source: http://navyfield.com/Community/Forum/View.aspx?num=27&searchtype=0&pagecount=0&searchvalue=&sort=5&category=C01&page1=1 )

B. Only SD EnterNet or its licensees have the right to host Navy Field. Accordingly,
you may not host, provide matchmaking services for, or emulate or redirect the
communication protocols used by SD EnterNets part of Navy Field, regardless of the
method used to do so. Such prohibited methods may include, but are not limited to,
protocol emulation, tunneling, reverse engineering, modifying Navy Field, adding
components to Navy Field, or using a utility program to host Navy Field.

C. You may not modify Navy Field to change game play, including, but not limited to,
the creation of cheats and/or hacks, nor may you use any third-party software which
is running at the same time as Navy Field that accesses files which are part of Navy
Field, for any reason whatsoever. Additionally, you may not utilize any "packet
sniffing" software, regardless of the operating system utilized by such software and
regardless of whether or not such tools are running on the same computer as the
Navy Field software or any computer connected to the Navy Field software or its
network, or otherwise monitor Navy Field's network connection while you or anyone
else is playing Navy Field.

F. You may not modify any files which SD EnterNet does not specifically authorize you
to modify.

(vi) Use bots or other automated techniques to collect information or communicate or
post any user's personal information in or on Navy Field, or websites or forums
related to Navy Field or SD EnterNet.

(viii) Cheat during game play, including but not limited to modification of the game
program files.

(i) You may not use or "exploit" errors in design, features which have not been
documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available,
or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players.

(ii) All connections to Navy Field, whether created by the SD EnterNet software
products or by other tools and utilities, may only be made through methods and
means expressly approved by SD EnterNet. Under no circumstances may you
connect, or create tools that allow you to connect, to Navy Field's private binary
interface or interfaces other than those explicitly provided by SD EnterNet for your
use.

(iii) You may not use any tools which hack or alter the Navy Field client or server
software.

(iv) You may not use software products which "packet sniff" or provide scripting
and/or macroing to obtain information from Navy Field to gain a competitive
advantage over other players.

(v) You may not do anything that SD EnterNet considers contrary to the "essence" of
Navy Field.

  • Re : NF Fixer should be banned.

    01. 24. 2012 11:02


Bart133
And nowhere did you explain how it violates any of those EULA passages. Copy-pasting a bunch of words doesn't mean you said anything.

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