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  • What's left for KM??

    03. 20. 2011 13:28

Xtremo
This is kinda a whine thread, but also a general question for everyone.
I put this here, because at first hand, there are fewer and fewer KM players every
day along with IJN, so, how do you foresee the KM/IJN future?

There is nothing special left for those nations in the big picture, at least on the BBs
line. SS and CVs are a complete different issue and they maybe competitive yet,
"""""maybe"""".

IJN still has torps, but nobody wins a GB/HA/whatever if it's not a kitta parade with
torps.
KM still has speed, so you can run away from the battle, which seems to be the only
use right now with the first glance of the new SN BB4&5, and still there is the BB6 to
be seen.

No armor, cottonballs firepower, range is slightly higher than the rest but the minimal
difference is compensated with the position of the most common BB5 guns
placement, you have to expose the complete transversal line for a good slingshot on
an H44, with catastrophic results due the lack of any armor.

I'm the onlyone thinking on this? I'm missing something? Consider all aspects, maybe
I'm too short to see the hidden KM potential, but so far I stand that there is
something wrong here.
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  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 10:20

KinLuu
Iowa can not do 42 with endgame crew, sadly. Unless you cut crew, that is.

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 10:17

Blazer4show
IIRC Iowa can hit 42 (albeit rather difficult can). Yammy can hit 40 as well.

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 05:22

KinLuu
H39 has way more range than all other BB4s, expect Stalingrad wich has the same
range and is horribly unbalanced.

And 40 kn is quite fast for a BB4 - Under endgame circumstances only the Vanguard
without AA and the L1 (without armor) is faster.

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 04:58

Remenents
About thse videos, those really are slaps in the face for KM players (myself included).
KM is suppose to have the most range, yet I see here that isnt so... hmm...

And I agree that rushing a H39 = death to the H39 7 out of 10 times. The H39 needs
to use hit and run tactics like the Alaska/Guam. She is very brittle and a rather large
target.

The speed on the H39 is also laughable I think. I can muster 37 knots in my H39
(granted my Engies are all +12 but lvl 75-78ish, I screwed up making them too late
not fully understanding what KM was about when I first started playing). I have read
that most H39s with AA gunners can muster around 40 knots and other BB4 can
muster up to 42 knots. We are outranged and slower than other BB4 and cant take
a hit. (Im not complaining, just stating from experience and from what I have read).

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 04:55

MightyAvatar
from my PoV/playstyle - yes
O-Pro2 is much better then AD in GB2 - more range, more firepower, equal sailorslots

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 04:51

KinLuu
Are you denying the ADs worth in a GB environment?

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 04:49

MightyAvatar
<----
<What's left for KM??
<----
<
<1. The best BB2?
<2. The best BB3?
<3. The best BB4? (Or 2nd best, if Stalingrad remains unchanged)
<4. The 2nd best BB6?
<5. The best PBB?
<6. The best ASW SS?
<7. The best short and medium range AA ships?

Agreed...but:

What's the worth of the best BB2/3/PBB in BB5/6 infested enviroment?

So what's left:
2nd best BB4
2nd best BB6
best ASW SS
best short/medium AA

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 22. 2011 01:41

KinLuu
If you use X-C you can use both the front and the rear turret against a rushing
enemy. It may be a bit more difficult, but it works.

And if you nose in, you expose yourself to fire from the whole enemy line, not just
the ship you rush. Unless the enemy team is in total disorder.

Again, I only care about BB room and FL type of situations.

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 21. 2011 23:57

Audessy
Then be careful with saying the at H39 is the best BB4. If it's disadvantages are
correctly exposed she will sink like a rock. And trust me, H39 has some HARSH
disadvantages going for it. Disadvantages like not being able to stop a rusher and not
being able to take a hit well. Extremely important.

A simple way of sinking a H39 is to engage in a line fight pretending to try and out-
range it. You wait for the h39 to fire and surprise rush. Aim well with front guns only
and proceed to sink it. Works every time. Why? When H39 is running from an attacker
she can connect 4 shells max on average with weak rewards. Ships like the Lion can
connect all 6 at times while presenting a smaller target. With high shell damage, most
other ships will succeed in rushing a h39.

  • Re : What's left for KM??

    03. 21. 2011 23:49

KinLuu
No it would not.

I could play DJDeath in his Vanguard in all my BB4s and I would not win a single
game. Would that prove that Vanguard is the best BB4? I think not... In 1 v 1
situations player skills plays a very big role. And considering I am a very mediocre BB
player, a 1 v 1 with anyone would prove nothing but my mediocrity.

/e: Can I name someone else to play instead of me? :D
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