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Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 07. 2011 14:56

ljsevern	As said. Both ASW and SS's are unbalanced at the moment; Level 70 ships shouldn't be competitive in a level 120 game mode. And Level 20 ships with PHH shouldn't have the effect they have on level 70 ships. Limit them to 3 per side until the rebalance. Quick temporary fix until the gameplay for submarines are fixed with proper tiers (5 and 6) at proper levels and properly balanced. On top of that, for non harbour tile rooms, if there aren't any capital ships in the room (BB/CV), the room should be classed as a victory to the attacker; There are too many fleets that send subs along the border at the end to waste time. This thread isn't for people that have no idea what they are talking about complaining about balance. A level 70 ship shouldn't have the effect they do have in HA. SDE have said themselves it is a 120 game mode. Its what the BB6's and CV6's were designed for. I'll be asking for any posts pertaining to OMG SUBS AREN'T OVERPOWERED to be removed as this argument has been done to death and anyone with any sense knows they are overpowered for their level.

ljsevern

As said. Both ASW and SS's are unbalanced at the moment; Level 70 ships shouldn't be
competitive in a level 120 game mode. And Level 20 ships with PHH shouldn't have the
effect they have on level 70 ships.

Limit them to 3 per side until the rebalance. Quick temporary fix until the gameplay for
submarines are fixed with proper tiers (5 and 6) at proper levels and properly balanced.

On top of that, for non harbour tile rooms, if there aren't any capital ships in the room
(BB/CV), the room should be classed as a victory to the attacker; There are too many
fleets
that send subs along the border at the end to waste time.

This thread isn't for people that have no idea what they are talking about complaining
about balance. A level 70 ship shouldn't have the effect they do have in HA. SDE have
said themselves it is a 120 game mode. Its what the BB6's and CV6's were designed for.

I'll be asking for any posts pertaining to OMG SUBS AREN'T OVERPOWERED to be removed
as this argument has been done to death and anyone with any sense knows they are
overpowered for their level.

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 12. 2011 07:11

ozzy0	its like luc says us a apa its simple load hh on the apa and have it escoted by a dd so u can see the ss if it comes close hh it and it wil go boom and the ss that BH can wast its time aslong as it wants assoon as the apa pases the line insta win its like devildog stated alot of ss can be wiped of the map by some good team asw but all u guys want to do is make HA a bb/cv fest and the lvl needed to come and play is 110+ so there will be no smal ships or lower lvl members of a fleet able to play @lj so u give low lvl players the asw/apa task so that u and your big bad bb6 can have all the fun where is the fun at that? low lvl players are low lvl becos thy can't play 24/7 and have just the same right to play in a HA as u and me

ozzy0

its like luc says us a apa its simple

load hh on the apa and have it escoted by a dd so u can see the ss
if it comes close hh it and it wil go boom
and the ss that BH can wast its time aslong as it wants assoon as the apa
pases the line insta win

its like devildog stated alot of ss can be wiped of the map by some good team asw
but all u guys want to do is make HA a bb/cv fest and the lvl needed to come and
play is 110+ so there will be no smal ships or lower lvl members of a fleet able to
play

@lj so u give low lvl players the asw/apa task so that u and your big bad bb6 can
have all the fun where is the fun at that?
low lvl players are low lvl becos thy can't play 24/7 and have just the same right to
play in a HA as u and me

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 12. 2011 01:15

ljsevern	"Seriously, I think you should be mindful of lower lvl players. This game is suppose to be fun, and I gotta say HAs are a major part of it. If you're gonna put a limit on the # of SSs that can be in a room in HAs, then that's like completely isolating any type of low lvl players from the game! You can't expect a BB2 user to stand a chance when up against BB5/BB6. Also from personal experience, some fleets use APAs and HHs very effectively during HAs so that the subs aren't even a problem. Eufo" >>> If you want to partake in HA, grind more. It really isn't hard to grind to 120 nowadays; People have done it easily within a month of SN coming out. You can't expect a level 70 player to have the firepower to take out multiple level 120 players. Especially when the exp amount from 106-120 is equal to the exp amounts from 1 to 106. If low level players want to partake, then get an AA ship or an APA. But again, its great that Devildog gets warned then another of his fleetmates pops in trolling.

ljsevern

"Seriously, I think you should be mindful of lower lvl players. This game is suppose to
be fun, and I gotta say HAs are a major part of it. If you're gonna put a limit on the
# of SSs that can be in a room in HAs, then that's like completely isolating any type of
low lvl players from the game! You can't expect a BB2 user to stand a chance when
up against BB5/BB6.

Also from personal experience, some fleets use APAs and HHs very effectively during
HAs so that the subs aren't even a problem.

Eufo"

>>> If you want to partake in HA, grind more. It really isn't hard to grind to 120
nowadays; People have done it easily within a month of SN coming out.

You can't expect a level 70 player to have the firepower to take out multiple level 120
players. Especially when the exp amount from 106-120 is equal to the exp amounts from
1 to 106.

If low level players want to partake, then get an AA ship or an APA. But again, its great
that Devildog gets warned then another of his fleetmates pops in trolling.

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 21:02

Eradicator1	"Seriously, I think you should be mindful of lower lvl players." >implying that ha is meant for lower level players "This game is suppose to be fun, and I gotta say HAs are a major part of it. If you're gonna put a limit on the # of SSs that can be in a room in HAs, then that's like completely isolating any type of low lvl players from the game! You can't expect a BB2 user to stand a chance when up against BB5/BB6." Lower level players don't get into fleets that ha "Also from personal experience, some fleets use APAs and HHs very effectively during HAs so that the subs aren't even a problem." He's talking about an exploit that subs can gain in harbor tiles. BTW who even uses more than 3 subs in a tile anyway

Eradicator1

"Seriously, I think you should be mindful of lower lvl players."

>implying that ha is meant for lower level players

"This game is suppose to be fun, and I gotta say HAs are a major part of it. If you're
gonna put a limit on the # of SSs that can be in a room in HAs, then that's like
completely isolating any type of low lvl players from the game! You can't expect a BB2
user to stand a chance when up against BB5/BB6."

Lower level players don't get into fleets that ha

"Also from personal experience, some fleets use APAs and HHs very effectively during
HAs so that the subs aren't even a problem."

He's talking about an exploit that subs can gain in harbor tiles.

BTW who even uses more than 3 subs in a tile anyway

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 20:27

Eufonioum	I didn't think fleet bashing was legal on the forum... "Lol, since when can JRF do any good in the game?" While we're at it, maybe we should limit the number of AA ships in Great Battle rooms as well, because a lvl 28 Emden can shoot down lvl 120 fighters? </sarcasm> Seriously, I think you should be mindful of lower lvl players. This game is suppose to be fun, and I gotta say HAs are a major part of it. If you're gonna put a limit on the # of SSs that can be in a room in HAs, then that's like completely isolating any type of low lvl players from the game! You can't expect a BB2 user to stand a chance when up against BB5/BB6. Also from personal experience, some fleets use APAs and HHs very effectively during HAs so that the subs aren't even a problem. Eufo

Eufonioum

I didn't think fleet bashing was legal on the forum...

"Lol, since when can JRF do any good in the game?"

While we're at it, maybe we should limit the number of AA ships in Great Battle rooms
as well, because a lvl 28 Emden can shoot down lvl 120 fighters?

</sarcasm>

Seriously, I think you should be mindful of lower lvl players. This game is suppose to
be fun, and I gotta say HAs are a major part of it. If you're gonna put a limit on the
# of SSs that can be in a room in HAs, then that's like completely isolating any type of
low lvl players from the game! You can't expect a BB2 user to stand a chance when
up against BB5/BB6.

Also from personal experience, some fleets use APAs and HHs very effectively during
HAs so that the subs aren't even a problem.

Eufo

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 18:05

Rehor	The biggest community gameplay problem in one thread: "all im saying is are they overpowered? sure, does that mean the need to be limited in HAs? no"

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 17:02

angus725	DD, trolling isn't allowed on these forums. If I see one more trolling post on this thread, I'll get cleaning.

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 14:52

mitchell600	Devildog8 said ''let me say this on bismark server there are a few fleet that use wolfpacks very well, and ill say JRF does,'' Lol, since when can JRF do any good in the game? And yes limit SS.

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 05:13

KinLuu	Recced. The impact of submarines on HA battlerooms, especially on the time needed to take them is to huge to not limit them. They are just to good at what they do. Stalling.

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 05:06

Luc1939	There are too many fleets that send subs along the border at the end to waste time Use APA to win when cross the limits of map.

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced
05. 11. 2011 04:37

ljsevern	The good suggestions usually have 100+, that is my goal Devildog. But if you want to come here trolling and not actually being constructive, i'll ask the FM's to clean the thread. Read my original post. If you can.

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Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 07. 2011 14:56

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 12. 2011 07:11

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 12. 2011 01:15

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 21:02

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 20:27

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 18:05

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 17:02

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 14:52

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 05:13

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 05:06

Re : Limit Submarines in HA until they get balanced 05. 11. 2011 04:37