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Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
09. 28. 2011 22:25
Aramaki
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I beared with this until today, when someone outranged my 8'' mogami guns with PHH and killed me. So not only a PHH does 800 damage, which is way more than my 8'' shells, but also outranges me???
So wait, let me say it again, with explanation. A SMALL MORTAR BOMB fired at a range of 250 yards (230 m) and designed to explode at contact with a SUBMERGED ship (because the damage against subs is in fact done by heavy water pressure, and not by armor penetration and/or heavy explosive), in this game does more damage and from a better range than a 8'' gun (205mm) that in reality was firing at a range of 29000 yd (27km) some 256 pound (116kg) shells!
Why is this happening? Why haven't the devs removed the damage vs surfaced ships? Why is the range so big? Why are HH even allowed in battle where subs are not allowed?!?
This feature is not historically accurate, is not ballanced and is not fun to play against. I would have understand to a certain degree if people would have to buy the darn weapon. But a free event item that EVERYONE GOT to be this powerfull is absolutely NOT FUN.
Please do smth about this. At least, until you can balance the weapon, please remove it from games where SS are banned.
Thank you.
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
09. 30. 2011 08:21
FalleNStaR
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Originally Posted by BadSpecS
if u dont like it, then just use PHH back.
And thats EXACTLY why they haven't changed it. They hope you'll give them money to fight back against the guy who already gave them money.
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
09. 30. 2011 10:19
redrum
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Originally Posted by phillipM
Originally Posted by redrum
hmm i found the easiest way to COUNTER PHHs in the epicfail blitz mode is to use the ever wonderful MULTIPURPOSE Type 93M3 Mod 2 torpedos on a Simakai...Pwnage is what it creates
cool story bro tell another
O OOO OO that line sounds familer...I know it from somewhere... i think someone famous has said it...
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
09. 30. 2011 11:30
TopSprinkles
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Originally Posted by iron_mask
what i find interesting is ....
the same players who whine and cry about .. "OMG SUBS ARE OP AND SHOULD BE NERFED TO DEATH" ..
are the ones telling the blitz players to ... "AWWW TOO BAD .. LEARN TO LIVE WITH PHH .. STOP WHINING" ..
the same group of BB players (who are killing the game btw) that shrug and offer snide trolling comments when PHH is exploited and abused outside of it's intended game mode usage .. are the ones that whine and moan and threaten to quit when a SS is used properly in it's intended role of ship-killer .. the differance here is .. in GB, they can't play SS nor counter them effectively (good players can - but the majority of the whiner BB's apparenlty can't), but they can range and run and avoid PHH frigates on a big map ... so therefore, as long as THEIR staus quo BB superiority is protected, its ok to abuse HH and drive new players away from the game in frustration .... go figure
^I was glad I saw this when I was reading through I was scared I would be the only one thinking the same thing...
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
09. 30. 2011 12:00
CaptKing
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With the AUTO FCS giving the same modifier as the AIMING FCS, Just Click and Fire. Its as easy as that.
$$$+Auto=PHH Ownage
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
09. 30. 2011 12:29
XtremCarnage
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and SDE wonder why new players dont stick around
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
09. 30. 2011 21:48
aingeal
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Originally Posted by hiroito
Originally Posted by Aramaki
Originally Posted by aingeal
I like how some people just dont have enough brainpower to manage well in game if they don't have OP content to use.
What makes you say this? First of all, the main drawback of PHH at range is a bad spread. However, I have wrote this post, as I have already explained in the OP, because somehow smbd managed to 1 shot my mogami from a range as big as my 8'' guns. So a very good spread on a very long range. I am definitely sure no one could have defended from that. But let's just say this was luck. However, I have PHH too and I have used them as main armament on a Frigate Y, so I have a clear idea of what they can do. And it is really hard to defend in blitz because: 1. small PHH ships are hard to hit from distance and have great speed to close up on big ships 2. big guns have bad spread and bad reload, so missing my frigate at mid range, means that I can close in and fire my PHH 3. there is also free smoke that can be used by a ship to close in and fire its PHH 4. a good close range hit from 4 PHH launchers means almost any ship will be 1 shoted, except maybe armor whores BBs. In many of my games, I managed to close in, fire PHH and return back to my line of ships, usually killing or crippling a CA in the process. So please elaborate on how can one defend from such a scenario, using sheer brainpower? Thank you.
Dude, he wad talking about people that can't live with OP content (AKA, bad players that just suck in blitz so they have to use the n00b tube in order to do some damage). He never mentioned anything about player having to "Learn to deal with OP content and get over it"
That. I'm seriously puzzled of the way you seem to be trying to pick apart arguments I never made, when the one I made support your point. OP stand for Overpowered, not Original Poster. Sorry if there was some confusion on your side, I tought it was obvious due to context.
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
10. 01. 2011 10:50
TSLordPred
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really guys is it hard to see its a game? you have HH vs PHH. HH does hardly any damage against surface ships. However PREMIUM HH does. Everything Premium on this game does better then anything of equal value. Example is the PBB for US. It outranges the current BB1 and 2 and sometimes a 3. Is that fair? no but hey they are premium.. if you want to balance the blitzes with PHH then allow ss1-2s
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
10. 01. 2011 19:28
aingeal
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Originally Posted by TSLordPred
really guys is it hard to see its a game? you have HH vs PHH. HH does hardly any damage against surface ships. However PREMIUM HH does. Everything Premium on this game does better then anything of equal value. Example is the PBB for US. It outranges the current BB1 and 2 and sometimes a 3. Is that fair? no but hey they are premium.. if you want to balance the blitzes with PHH then allow ss1-2s
That argument is invalid. You aren't fixing an issue, you are attempting to balance the imbalance by another. Sadly, this one contrary to NF, goes with the other imbalance. How do you think SS1-2 will counter PHH in blitz? PBB are ships that offer advantages compared to regular BBs of the same level, but a BB2-3 with a decent driver at the helm can more than hold its own vs it. B65 and Dunk are actually the best exemple of that, only sevas and AD are really questionnable. Stating the reason for which content is OP (talking about PHH) also sadly to not constitute an arguement in favor, unless you explain why you support access to imbalanced content for money.
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
10. 02. 2011 00:07
Aramaki
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I have no problem with premium content being more powerful than its regular counterpart. PHH doing more damage to subs than HH would be of course fine.
I would have no problem with say premium shells or premium guns outrangeing and doing more damage than regular ones.
But PHH doing outrageous damage from a long distance to surface ships its not fine, not by a tiny bit! Especially when a PHH SMALL MORTAR BOMB does twice damage than a 8'' shell! :(
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Re : Ok, time to end the PHH spam in blitz!
10. 02. 2011 00:13
CabaL90
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let them waste their headgehogs on little DDs. when they go to GB1 they wont have anything to counter the SS when they higher class ships. let them rot.
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