and having a tw kita in a blitz is balance? there has never been balance in nf with or without prem. Ive seen gb's where 4 bb6's were in the same room, room splits one side gets 3 the other 1.. so dont use balance as an excuse since nf apparently doesnt have it. Just enjoy the free stuff, stop complaining and get back to leveling. If you dont like those phh ships.... shoot em first. Thats what i do in blitz.. Use a cl with low lvl 5 in guns (as an example, brooklyn) with gunners around lvl 50-55. the rapid fire rate from this ship will take down many ca's and under in just a few seconds. Yes Phh's seem unfair but its part of the game, so as gamers we must adapt and find ways to counter it. Our biggest worry in blitz isnt phh players but the fact they rarely last 5 min. People need to stop killing so fast and wait 5 min for the max xp allowance and during events, the chance for item drops.

lol isnt it... i think its hilarious..

Kita are lvl 52 ships, therefore in blitz should have about a CA impact to the game. I gotta say I often beat the kita damage wise with a CL2.

Blitz issue is mainly the map. It explains Kita being now unbalanced in those (never had this trouble before) since they can launch their 18k torp from spawn directly to enemy CVs. Overall, torp can be easy to dodge, since few people actually make good torpwalls.

Change the map, you also will settle the game cutting short before 5 minutes.


The part about lvl 5 gun on a CL murdering a CA is false tough. even pushing it to fast firing lvl 20 or so dual, you normally have more of a fun effect but low effectiveness.

Fact is, no other weapon have such a massive damage output at low level than PHH, and they are availaible to DD1 and any T-slots who use them in a surface ship only game mode, while they should be pure ASW weapons.

And do beware of your use of the world adapting. Because we can somewhat avoid our exposure to an unwanted effect of new content, or to an imbalance doesn't fix the imbalance, but only the effect it has on us. In this particular case, its hard to totally avoid, as a DD1 steaming full engine to a CA way outspeed it, and HH got considerable range.

dude its not false when i did it with a brooklyn. if you have the right reload time on the guns and a decent pair of gunners you can pwn with 5 5inch guns, and I will use the word adapt however i see fit. As players we need to adapt, plain and simple. Just because a weapon is deemed unfair doesnt mean it should be nerfed. Many have stated a way you can help neutralize the phh is shoot the stupid boats before they get there. If your a CA or BB and you see a dd charging full steam ahead then its your fault as a ca or bb driver to not shoot it. If you let it get close enough to shoot you... then take the punishment. I look at it as easy XP when they rush in. They become my priority targets and they usually have min xp since they usually die fast. PHH is overpowered yes but thats why its a premium item and on a GAME. You guys, this game is not historically accurate on any level. Taking out PHH's or HH's from blitz is like taking out the AWP Sniper rifle from Team Fortress. Just because its powerful and you cant control the outcome doesn't mean you have to have it removed. Take responsability yourself in stopping the rushers and stop whining. This point is dead and not going anywhere. No one is offering any ideas outside of just whining it should be removed. I dont like PHH myself but I deal with it. Its a game people.

You still don't have the nuke effect of the PHH. You don't have the range of the PHH. You don't even have brook regular gun damage output. I've killed a lots of thing from 3/70 of the Pensa T slot, or made DD ran quite hard, switching to the HE when AAing.




Adapting to a new tactic again, is one thing. Adapting your playstyle to a massive imbalance that ruin DD balance between themselves is another thing. I myself have little trouble dealing with them, since BVE gunners spread, and BVE engies allows me to keep my range longer, and deliver precise long range hit to them. But not everyone has 110 vets on their gunners at blitz levels.




I won't repeat last part of my previous paragraph, but most CLs CAs have taken to also loading PHH on their Tslots. Reason? Their gunners spread aren't up to stopping the DDs in time, therefore the counter to PHH becomes PHH.

And I am sorry, when the counter of a weapon is the weapon itself for ships 40 levels higher, we have balance issue, with the low level ship having access to a weapon way too powerful for the level.

Nevermind the DD balance between themselves. How does a DD such as the L class (3 R slot) suppose to compete with a DDX (5 R slot) when it suddenly becomes DDX = 14 more PHH than L-class? Guns were balanced between them, now everyone has PHH, and DD1 like the fletcher can be considered superior to some DD3, because number of R slots now dictate salvo power.

The issue isnt only being killed by PHH. I want this game to have a good overall balance, not just for myself.





Thanks for saying PHH are overpowered and that you support overpowered content when you have to buy it. But I don't.

I don't play Team Fortress, but I'd say a shooter and a tactical game aren't the same thing, which different balance mechanics, and mainly I doubt you have the RPG element of levels in it.

As I repeated, I myself don't have the trouble stopping them with my gunners. I also am aware some people don't have fully BVE crew to block at those fast moving and small target. But I don't tend to take playstyle as a valid balancing argument, since its a point that can vary a lot. I take possibilities into account.

And a DD1 with the possibility of hitting nearly as hard as a BB1 every 30 sec, no matter the range, is overpowered. That being a game doesnt mean we shouldn't care about improving it also, and I wonder how you can think its an arguement.

As a final word : if you are so out of arguments and all you can do is be dismissive of everyone's posts and call them whiners when they brought valid points about game balance, then just don't post and save yourself the shame.



Small suggestion, please include some spaces in those blocks of text of yours.

thats a good idea to... make the damage to surface vessels the same as aa..


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