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  • 50% exp penalty for BB's if you don't run a scout

    12. 31. 2011 13:02

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ljsevern

Obviously the RU BB1 and UK Nelson should be coded as exceptions.

While its funny watching a player with no scout begging for sight, its sad and is leaching in my opinion.

I would also support BB's being required to run a scout. 

 

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 00:54


Humberto20
I ll have to admit, this way it will encourage players, in fact ljsevern you should add the experience factor of that 50% should be based if the player is using the scout properly, i ve used bb without scout, but at the same time, i feel horrible without it, once you are blind, you cant see nothing and have no idea where to attack.for example, if the player loaded the planes and the player still didnt use them, if should be penalized maybe by 30% or something like that.

as submarine player, it is very sad that i dont know where to attack because of lack of vision, most cases that can cost the victory and missing great opportunities of sinking important ships. i ve had that case, when i was forced to surface, because i couldnt see anything, and sadly there was a BB5 next to me. or it ran way, or he just killed me.


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  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 10:09


LexCordine
In my opinion as long as BB player is competitive without a scout, he isn't leaching. Therefore he shouldn't be penalized with lower exp gain.

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 10:49


Sonlirain
Originally Posted by LexCordine

In my opinion as long as BB player is competitive without a scout, he isn't leaching. Therefore he shouldn't be penalized with lower exp gain.


He is leeching sight by relying on other ships for it even in situations when it's not needed.

In this case even sending a scout at default towards the enemy line would be better than not doing anything.

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 10:52


ljsevern
Originally Posted by LexCordine

In my opinion as long as BB player is competitive without a scout, he isn't leaching. Therefore he shouldn't be penalized with lower exp gain.


In shared exp game modes, you gain exp for what your teammates do. Therefore, you should be scouting if you are able to.

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 11:34


mkzblaster
Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by mkzblaster

50% is way to high... and suggesting players to use a scout is one thing, forcing them is another. Navyfield is barely limping by with the events as it is; but to make more players unhappy to please a few is just stupid. This really wouldn't help game play as many bb that have scouts don't launch them as it is now. So what 50% for not have one, 25% for not launching one?


It doesn't force them. It will make the majority of players happy (see the BB scout poll).

And feel free to prove that BB's don't launch their scouts. If they have a scout on board, they will use them.


I know that I dont launch scouts when A) im fighter camped B) have sight and dont notice my scout is down C)Im to busy fighting other bb's and AA bombers. I play the SY with 8 scouts and some games i come out with 8 still on board others I dont have any left and yes running a 50% exp penalty is pretty much forcing them. If it was 10% maybe 15% that might be okay but think about it as a maximum of 50K a game with 200k attack... Also as long as we on the topic why don't we make cv's take a 50% exp penalty for not running fighters....? One fail bb dont cost a team the game but one fail cv can. This is just a huge waste of time because good players can play without sight going by where the enemy is shooting from. There are also players that players that rush in and play within their on sight range so again should they lose exp for not launching a scout but at the same time providing better sight then said scout...? Your idea is full of holes that cant be easily fixed. It would be one thing if it was 70% 80% 90% of people wanting this. but its at the most 60% I cant seem to find the old poll your talking about but do vaguely remember it and that after it was done sde did nothing about it and even that only had a slight majority. Do you think that IF 30% of players didnt like this and 10% of said 30% left that it would "enhance" the game enough to bring atleast that many New players to fill the loses?

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 12:34


joshmon999
Hey, let's add a 1 million repair cost for BB6 in GB rooms as well, that'll eliminate another whole class of leeches. ^^

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 12:39


LexCordine
Originally Posted by ljsevern

In shared exp game modes, you gain exp for what your teammates do. Therefore, you should be scouting if you are able to.


I'm not sure if scouting is, in any cases, better for the whole team than, for example, faster repairing of one of the major ships. People should be able to find that out on their own without some kind of penalties.

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 16:21


joshmon999
Originally Posted by LexCordine

Originally Posted by ljsevern

In shared exp game modes, you gain exp for what your teammates do. Therefore, you should be scouting if you are able to.


I'm not sure if scouting is, in any cases, better for the whole team than, for example, faster repairing of one of the major ships. People should be able to find that out on their own without some kind of penalties.


You aren't sure? Let me help you figure it out. Have you ever died during a duel, because a ship just outside your sight took a cheap shot on you? That was due to crappy vision. Have you ever lost sight of the actual ship you were dueling and been killed? That was due to crappy vision. Have you ever been sunk because a teammate couldnt repair 2% faster, or have 12 sec more OH? Nope, probably not.

There are only 2 stances here, since the actual claim is irrefutable: "No, I don't think this is a good idea , because I am selfish, and don't care how useful a scout would be for the whole team, it still will not outweigh my personal benefit of being able to repair 2% faster, or have 15 sec more OH" Lol, watching these people parade by sounding like politicians, speaking lawyer-ese, cracks me up. Just own it, no law against being selfish, but don't be a selfish weasel, be selfish and proud.
Other stance: " yes, I feel that the HUGE team benefit of having a scout loaded, EVEN IF I NEVER USE IT IN CERTAIN BATTLES, is MUCH greater than being able to repair or OH a teeny-tiny bit more in every battle. "
That's it: Either "Im selfish" or "Im not"
So anyone else who wants to post, save us all the time and heartache, and just type one or the other. Then, if you're the selfish type, go to a GB and cry about vision, while you leech your way to another XP screen.

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 16:41


LexCordine
My bad, I ment 'in all cases', but wrote 'in any cases'. Anyway I'm against, and don't care much enough to post more on this topic. This probably lead to nowhere anyway (discussion won't have impact on game).

  • Re : 50% exp penalty if you don't run a scout as a BB

    01. 16. 2012 16:59


mkzblaster
Well clearly I am a selfish player but that really has nothing to do with the scout... I run my scouts as best as I can and always try to be ready to send another one. But I'm still against this as it really doesn't help. I mean what do you really expect this to do? Anyone who sends their scout in the middle at 100 will have it AA'ed before it can really show anything. If you really wanted to fix the sight "problem" make AA harder and less powerful. But I think messing with the game is only going hurt; why not just fix and patch. If Sde is going to make a new nf then let them focus on that, rather then fight issues that are moot

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