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    11. 19. 2006 20:23

Rengokuy
Please Restickey!

Granted by Angus725 *dated March 24th, 2011*

---------------------------I was right-------------------------

Trees (to large to post, copy paste into your browser)
*ignore French and Italian DD lines, they are being changed
France - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/FrenchTree.jpg
Italy - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/ItalyTree.jpg
Russia - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/RussiaTree.jpg

*Updating ships to match the trees
Edit - Richelieu remodel to Jean Bart, not Gascagone
Edit - Bearn remodel to Joffre (as they have same capacity, one just trades
armor/armament
for speed)

-for people who want to know the capabilities of the guns, nearly all are found on
this website http://www.navweaps.com/


(boring intro section, scroll past to get to the ships and pretty pictures)
Short and Sweet, the French and Italians had good strong navies during WWII.
Both would be workable into the current game, ideally as their own nation, using
their own crews.

The French Navy would be a speedy one at that. Range would be rather long,
either equal to or a bit farther than most german guns at level. French DD's will be
some of the best in game, each with high damaging, fast firing guns. CL's and CA's
would be fast hard hitters that don't present much of a target, but they will be very
vulnrable to shell fire as they didn't mount much armor, a problem remidied in the
BB's. The French carriers would all be rather slow, their aircraft typical until higher
levels. BB's would all be above average, with long firing guns. (don't let the PBB
Dunkerque fool you, they had much better range than that)
Richelieu's guns had a longer range than the Iowa's.
All battleships would be capable of defending themselves from aircraft as well.

As for the Italian Navy, it would be a nation of Cruisers and AA guns. Heavy and Light
Cruisers would be the strongest of any nation in the game. DD's would be a trick to
use. All would have few mounts (usually only 2 or 3) but remain the same size as
other nations DD's. BB's would be typical until higher levels when they improve
drastically. Italian Carriers would be tend to have a little less plane space than their
counterparts, but be able to equip much heavier armament. Italian guns in general
had very long ranges, even over german guns. This was achieved at the grave price
of short barrel lives. The FCS system was very effective, tight salvos are to be
expected. Armor would be rated in giving about 20% stronger than the USN armor.

The Russian navy. Well, they will be very interesting indeed. Right from the beginning
they get very fast destroyers with considerably heavy armament. Russian cruisers
will be a bit more difficult to use. Their armament usually lighter than ships of the
same weight, their only advantages being tight salvos and small profiles. The
Russian battleships will be, for lack of better words, terrors to fight. The early on
ones based of the Gangut class, they are small targets with a lot of guns, the only
disadvantage being lack of AA defense, a problem remedied at the BB4 and 5 level,
the ships here built in practice with current US ones (iowa and montana). Even their
aircraft carriers are well armed, each making good speed and decent capacity. As for
their aircrafts, figters will be good, but bombs and torpedoes relativily weak.
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  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    06. 06. 2008 20:22

Shannara
Great ideas, looking forward to driving a Soviet built ship =)

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    06. 06. 2008 15:20

Rengokuy
Hara - 180cm? it had a 70in gun? I think you mean 180mm, which is a 7in gun, standard
treaty Heavy Cruisers used 8in guns. This means the Russian Heavy Cruisers were armed
lighter than the rest of the worlds. The standard gun for a Light Cruiser was 6in

Solo - Im trying to understand the tree there, honestly, mixing soviet ships with older
ones really doesn't matter. They are just clumped into the term "Russia". What it would
come down to is something more like the Project BB's and the Gangut style BB's, if the
linees were split.

Everyone else other than krist - Thank you

Krist - Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    06. 06. 2008 14:58

Harayinge
The Russians did have heavily armed destroyers,but their light cruisers would be
considered HEavy Cruisers according to the London Naval Treaty which of course
they were not part of.One of their cruisers carried a 180cm gun.So you can't really
call the Russians Cls and CAs weak.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    06. 05. 2008 12:35

SoloAD
Sorry, my english isn't good.
IMHO Russian should do soviet ship tree. Russian Navyfield community does a soviet
ship tree and I wish to present its sketches to you. All ships have started to build or
have put into operation except for BB5 - pr.24, PCA - pr.66.
2 BB's lines:
Left - fast speed, more ranges, strong AA but small damage and big ship sizes. BB1
similar Sharnhorst, BB2 similar Gneisenau with 6x14,96. BB3 similar Gneisenau with
9x11.
Right - big damage, small ship size but weak AA and range, similar Ise/Fuso.
CV line and PBB is not made yet.
PCL - Shkval (4x2x6")
PCA - pr.66(3x3x220mm)
Event ship - CL "Krasnyi Krym"

http://i29.tinypic.com/ekrbwh.gif

* - pr.24's R-slots: 500x3

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    06. 04. 2008 11:21

TheRoyalNavy
To me this idea seems brilliant in terms on Naval Warfarre the Italians where more
involved than the Germans(Surface wise) and actually possesed an Aircraft carrier that was
capable of moving easily under its own power.

The Russians yes admittedly don't seem to be a massive naval power in WW2 but still.

The French seem like a good idea considering they had a well developed group of cruisers
in their navy and quite a few modern battleships in terms of modernity only outclassed by
the Littorio class and Bismarks and possibly the KGVs

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 31. 2008 18:38

xBlackRiderx
the dude above me dont know what hes talking about.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 26. 2008 06:33

krist88
useless add. french, italian and russian didnt have any big influence on the war
especially french.
The only decent ship of these countries are already in the game
PLS navyfield dont complicate the game with this useless add

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 21. 2008 23:57

kanasmano
WOW!! AMAZING!!

great suggestion!!!

i hope they will add also d SAILOR LIMIT

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 21. 2008 15:27

johnjay
All three nations sound amazing I am going to have a hard time choosing which
nation I'm going to make

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 21. 2008 10:01

Soppatykki
Briliant, let hope there will be new navies in the future. Nothing would be better,
marvelouse work.