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    11. 19. 2006 20:23

Rengokuy
Please Restickey!

Granted by Angus725 *dated March 24th, 2011*

---------------------------I was right-------------------------

Trees (to large to post, copy paste into your browser)
*ignore French and Italian DD lines, they are being changed
France - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/FrenchTree.jpg
Italy - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/ItalyTree.jpg
Russia - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/RussiaTree.jpg

*Updating ships to match the trees
Edit - Richelieu remodel to Jean Bart, not Gascagone
Edit - Bearn remodel to Joffre (as they have same capacity, one just trades
armor/armament
for speed)

-for people who want to know the capabilities of the guns, nearly all are found on
this website http://www.navweaps.com/


(boring intro section, scroll past to get to the ships and pretty pictures)
Short and Sweet, the French and Italians had good strong navies during WWII.
Both would be workable into the current game, ideally as their own nation, using
their own crews.

The French Navy would be a speedy one at that. Range would be rather long,
either equal to or a bit farther than most german guns at level. French DD's will be
some of the best in game, each with high damaging, fast firing guns. CL's and CA's
would be fast hard hitters that don't present much of a target, but they will be very
vulnrable to shell fire as they didn't mount much armor, a problem remidied in the
BB's. The French carriers would all be rather slow, their aircraft typical until higher
levels. BB's would all be above average, with long firing guns. (don't let the PBB
Dunkerque fool you, they had much better range than that)
Richelieu's guns had a longer range than the Iowa's.
All battleships would be capable of defending themselves from aircraft as well.

As for the Italian Navy, it would be a nation of Cruisers and AA guns. Heavy and Light
Cruisers would be the strongest of any nation in the game. DD's would be a trick to
use. All would have few mounts (usually only 2 or 3) but remain the same size as
other nations DD's. BB's would be typical until higher levels when they improve
drastically. Italian Carriers would be tend to have a little less plane space than their
counterparts, but be able to equip much heavier armament. Italian guns in general
had very long ranges, even over german guns. This was achieved at the grave price
of short barrel lives. The FCS system was very effective, tight salvos are to be
expected. Armor would be rated in giving about 20% stronger than the USN armor.

The Russian navy. Well, they will be very interesting indeed. Right from the beginning
they get very fast destroyers with considerably heavy armament. Russian cruisers
will be a bit more difficult to use. Their armament usually lighter than ships of the
same weight, their only advantages being tight salvos and small profiles. The
Russian battleships will be, for lack of better words, terrors to fight. The early on
ones based of the Gangut class, they are small targets with a lot of guns, the only
disadvantage being lack of AA defense, a problem remedied at the BB4 and 5 level,
the ships here built in practice with current US ones (iowa and montana). Even their
aircraft carriers are well armed, each making good speed and decent capacity. As for
their aircrafts, figters will be good, but bombs and torpedoes relativily weak.
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  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 31. 2008 11:32

trranger
nice work on research how do you get the pictures in the form also here is another good
ship site

http://www.warshipsww2.eu/

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 31. 2008 09:36

paducahman36
i still say lets keep it at the main ones that was mostly in the war...the others
where only supporters so we are fine with the four main ones that was the main
powers in ww2 so to that its a good idea but its fine the way it is

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 31. 2008 09:10

Fearil
What a great idea. It seems like a lot of thought and work went into these posts.

Tomorrow it will certainly find my recommendation.

Kudos on the RCN comment, ships specific to Canada would be wonderful, however unlikely. :D

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 28. 2008 09:19

td_20
Nice work on your post!

Here my 2 cents.
I feel their should be Canadian WWII ships, maybe not a hole new nation on TNF
but maybe a branch of off the UK line.

The Royal Canadian Navy, ( RCN) during world war two was a SMALL SHIP NAVY, made up
ofCorvettes, Fairmiles and Destroyers. Their main job was escorting ship
convoys acrossthe Atantic Ocean to Britain

By the end of the war it was the third largest navy in the world, with over 400 ships and
125,000 men. THe RCN sank the largest number of U boats in the Atlantic zone
and were the best anti-sunmarine groups in the world, because they specialised in hunting
and sinking them, anywhere they could be found, including close inshore to Canadian ports,
such as Halifax.

Remember this fact........None of those Allied soldiers who eventually fought in Europe
got there on an air plane. They all travelled across the Atlantic by ship, from both
Canada and the USA, and the RCN was their protection, as their troops ships zig zagged
across the ocean, heading to Britain.

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 28. 2008 04:52

The__Paladin
Great idea, definitely gets a recommend.
Would be a lot of work to implement though...

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 27. 2008 22:29

spook289
nice... hope this would come out someday...

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 27. 2008 16:07

zidane1989
If anything it would make people respect the Dunk a lot more if this is implemented :P.
Keep faith Rengokuy for without you're support this would be completely impossible.

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 27. 2008 09:10

JOHNNY_BRAVO
Keep the effort rengokuy..... I'd love to see this happens :=)

sadly I cannot recommend you once more

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 27. 2008 08:09

Rengokuy
Zin- Oh im sure after enough time, it will be in, Give it time, everything takes
time.....*cries a little on the inside*

Serb- Not quite sure what you're getting at, I have the Izmail...If you want a sepret line
for Soviet and Pre Soviet Russia, sorry, but they just don't have enough ships to do that.

SSC - Wow, you must be the most origional person ever in the world. Do research then
parody, and stop spamming.

mike - umm....thanks, but we'll not worry anything about fleet powers on AZ. Although,
this will give something for the veteran players to do.

liscious - thankies

other peps - I have the final ship trees for each, once I get non-lazy I'll post them.

  • Re : New Nations (French/Italian/Russian)

    03. 09. 2008 13:38

zidane1989
Bump, this is a great idea and i hope it will be implemented (although it probably wont),
and even though this is an old thread i will recommed tomorow since i have already used it
today.