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  • New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    11. 19. 2006 20:23

Rengokuy
Please Restickey!

Granted by Angus725 *dated March 24th, 2011*

---------------------------I was right-------------------------

Trees (to large to post, copy paste into your browser)
*ignore French and Italian DD lines, they are being changed
France - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/FrenchTree.jpg
Italy - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/ItalyTree.jpg
Russia - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/RussiaTree.jpg

*Updating ships to match the trees
Edit - Richelieu remodel to Jean Bart, not Gascagone
Edit - Bearn remodel to Joffre (as they have same capacity, one just trades
armor/armament
for speed)

-for people who want to know the capabilities of the guns, nearly all are found on
this website http://www.navweaps.com/


(boring intro section, scroll past to get to the ships and pretty pictures)
Short and Sweet, the French and Italians had good strong navies during WWII.
Both would be workable into the current game, ideally as their own nation, using
their own crews.

The French Navy would be a speedy one at that. Range would be rather long,
either equal to or a bit farther than most german guns at level. French DD's will be
some of the best in game, each with high damaging, fast firing guns. CL's and CA's
would be fast hard hitters that don't present much of a target, but they will be very
vulnrable to shell fire as they didn't mount much armor, a problem remidied in the
BB's. The French carriers would all be rather slow, their aircraft typical until higher
levels. BB's would all be above average, with long firing guns. (don't let the PBB
Dunkerque fool you, they had much better range than that)
Richelieu's guns had a longer range than the Iowa's.
All battleships would be capable of defending themselves from aircraft as well.

As for the Italian Navy, it would be a nation of Cruisers and AA guns. Heavy and Light
Cruisers would be the strongest of any nation in the game. DD's would be a trick to
use. All would have few mounts (usually only 2 or 3) but remain the same size as
other nations DD's. BB's would be typical until higher levels when they improve
drastically. Italian Carriers would be tend to have a little less plane space than their
counterparts, but be able to equip much heavier armament. Italian guns in general
had very long ranges, even over german guns. This was achieved at the grave price
of short barrel lives. The FCS system was very effective, tight salvos are to be
expected. Armor would be rated in giving about 20% stronger than the USN armor.

The Russian navy. Well, they will be very interesting indeed. Right from the beginning
they get very fast destroyers with considerably heavy armament. Russian cruisers
will be a bit more difficult to use. Their armament usually lighter than ships of the
same weight, their only advantages being tight salvos and small profiles. The
Russian battleships will be, for lack of better words, terrors to fight. The early on
ones based of the Gangut class, they are small targets with a lot of guns, the only
disadvantage being lack of AA defense, a problem remedied at the BB4 and 5 level,
the ships here built in practice with current US ones (iowa and montana). Even their
aircraft carriers are well armed, each making good speed and decent capacity. As for
their aircrafts, figters will be good, but bombs and torpedoes relativily weak.
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  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 21. 2008 08:30

MetalFr


http://alaboc.ifrance.com/pages/france/marine_france.html

some informations about French fleet....and others..

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 19. 2008 15:12

Bunnydakillr
grats on getting this partially implemented now that SDE is considering a Russian line. Hope the rest gets put in
too!

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 14. 2008 17:46

Obaum
wow new nations!!

its good in game so...

its hard to make sprites to each ship >< and guns planes bla bla bla

lol its funny the pcls

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 14. 2008 15:27

masc24
congrats m8, job well done, deserved to be implemented.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 11. 2008 23:11

Meta
Ah, yay they are going to implement this ^^. Its a bummer rengokuy doesn't play much
anymore >:(, He was cool ^^.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 11. 2008 19:16

JOHNNY_BRAVO
Congratulations Rengo...I cannot recommend this thread again, but finally your hard earned research sees the dawn of a
new project in game......U deserve a big place in NF......
keep that hard working m8

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 11. 2008 10:48

straswa
awesome ideas that got even better.


I so want a French CV now.

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 10. 2008 01:03

boydyma
wow dude, looks like you might have the chance to make a REAL contribution to the
betterment of NF.... How do you feel about that?

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 09. 2008 18:47

Linuss
Pinned by me as to the relevence of Yuno's thread to avoid any spam of ideas.


Linuss
TNF AZ Moderator

  • Re : New Nations French/Italian/Russian

    05. 09. 2008 17:06

DavidWeber
To Rengokuy
Sources from Wiki:
The Krasnyi Krym ( Red Crimea) was a light cruiser of the Soviet Navy. She was
originally laid down as the Svetlana for the Imperial Russian Navy in 1914 and
completed in 1926. She was a near sister of the Chervona Ukraina. Initially named
the Profintern and based in the Baltic she was transferred to the Black Sea Fleet in
1929 together with the battleship Parizhskaya Kommunna. The Krasnyi Krym
survived World War II and was scrapped in 1956.

Two sister ships the Admiral Spiridov and Admiral Greig were converted into tankers
after the revolution. A fourth ship the Admiral Butakov was scrapped incomplete

Chervona Ukraina (from Ukrainian: "Red Ukraine") was a Soviet Svetlana-class light
cruiser attached to the Black Sea Fleet. Laid down on October 3, 1913 as Admiral
Nakhimov (renamed to Chervona Ukraina on December 7, 1922), launched on
November 6, 1915 and commissioned on March 21, 1927. Several Soviet naval
commanders have served on the ship: Nikolai Gerasimovich Kuznetsov, N. Nesvitskiy,
and Y. Panteleyev. The cruiser was destroyed by German bombers during the battle
of Sevastopol on November 12, 1941.

"Krasny Kavkaz" (from Russian: - "Red Caucasus") was a Soviet cruiser.
Laid down on October 18, 1913 at the Rossud Dockyard as "Admiral Lazarev" and
launched on June 8, 1916. She was only completed on December 14, 1926 due to
the Russian Revolution. She was renamed "Krasny Kavkaz" and completed to a
modernised design, being commissioned on January 25, 1932. Her armament of four
180 mm guns would have placed her as a heavy cruiser according to London Naval
Treaty, but the USSR was not a part of this treaty. In 1933 the cruiser visited the
ports of Turkey, Greece and Italy. During World War II under the command of officers
A. M. Guschin and V. N. Yeroshenko it fought against Germans in Sevastopol,
Odessa, Theodosia and Novorossiysk.


So I think it is necessary to add Krasnyi Krym and Chervona Ukraina into your
line.Both of them.They were different classes.


And 10inch gun is enough.12 inch is so large......