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  • Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 15. 2010 09:21

NZRogue
Hi All,

While im feeling all proactive.

Calmly and rationally - What keeps you out of your CV?

How do we get you back in your CV playing again?

Again - Please keep this clear of speculation, insults. Everyone has their right to a
viewpoint or reason, debate it but do so with reason and back it up.

If not or you cant, then leave it

Yes no doubt this has been discussed to death, but is also a major issue in NF today
resulting in games taking too long to load etc. Yes I also know there is the CV wish list
thread.

This is a temporary quick fire solution suggestion thread - Keep it short and concise

Heres a couple for you

1) Crew death
2) Player abuse (bullying and insults)
3) TB's DB's shortened range
4) Locals need resolving (?)

Added (by community)
1) Torp/DB Damage review
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  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 21. 2010 14:33

Megadone
@ewort

1 - hmm NO? Locals are the only usefull planes aside(TB or DB) on a Cv1-2 with at lvl
crew....without Locals, your gona see 3x more bombwhore Cv's....or a bunch with T1
wich will quit the game once they enter GB2...since they will be useless..eaven a
bombwhore Cv is more usefull then a FW Cv1-2 with T1's...

2 - thet wouled be great...how ever it wouled hit SDE's pockets...thet sad, it's not
gona happen :)

cheers
Megadone

  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 21. 2010 09:08

ewort
level 100 elite, boosted , experted and vetted pilots and each and every battle I get
pilot dfficer and skilled kills from someone using locals or from a BB. I keep records of
each loss and feel it is excessive. This has left me to do just 1 or 2 battles a day with
my CV Europa.
solutions:
1) do as the European servers did and do away with the locals and come out with
level 100 fighters. This is loved over there.
2) do away with sailor kills all together. As some people are abusing the use of AP to
intentionally produce sailor kills .

  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 21. 2010 08:37

Gollum
10/12/10 crap stat?
180vet not enough?

and i micromanage my ft everytime i use them


you can test lvl 120 T3 VS lvl 80+ LFT
and see result

oh and if you run away from LFT in GB when BB blind you got frame




  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 21. 2010 07:24

boggintuff
Gollum its not unreasonable if you have crap stats and low vets on ur 120 T3

  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 20. 2010 22:05

Gollum
for the low lvl CV player who whining about nerf LFT
Do you think us(high lvl cv player) never play T1?
we are same as you. Everyone start from lvl1 and play T1>T2>T3 not same as today
LFT----->100+
when we are low lvl our FT owned by high lvl player too
but why we can pass that time?

new CV player this day never touch T1and T2, someone never touch T3 until lvl 100and
someone lvl 100+ and still use LFT is shameful

give a chance for low lvl cv fight with high lvl is true but not 80-90% win rate
it unreasonable 8-9 lvl 70-80 LFT beat 10+ lvl 120 T3



  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 20. 2010 12:01

boggintuff
1.) The crew loss is epic(even with high level crew/medic). This is the main reason I
dont play.
2.) TB exp or lack there of is ridiculous.
3.) People not really know the role of the cv in game and thus getting flamed.
4.) Balance issues...specifically people with 120 crews
5.) Locals - where should I start?
6.) Inability to load out our pilots to our own desire. Specifically limiting our number
of pilots we can actually put on a cv.
7.) Not having the option to run LFP and T 1-3 pilots at the same time.

*Reserved* for later use


  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 20. 2010 10:05

Kogard
"4) AA Ships
- Review the damage on planes independently. Meaning, for T1 planes i would buff the
damage of the AA guns by 5% ( causing 105% damage unto the planes ). T2 would receive only
95% damage. T3 would receive only 90%. Locals should receive 115% damage.
* Please note that the above is not related to fighter-fighter dogfights. It should only
be applied to AA Gunship to Planes."

I would rec this, T1 recieve 85%, T2= 95% and T3 recieve 105%, Locals 115% (they're short
range anyway to enter enemy AA)
Bcoz T1 is already easy to kill now, and ur suggestion will only make low level CV
players(pilots) harder to level up...

  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 20. 2010 06:24

godchaos
1) Revise TB/DB Damage, a 10-20% increase would be nice

2) Reduce Crew Death by 25%

3) Player Abuse **********
- Since BBs are the majority of the players in a standard GB/GB2. They would always
'command' the cv to scout using there fighters. And command for ft cover. BBs often forget
that CVs are already trying their best to cover.
In the very end the BBs would whine.

&
CVs should be given better status in NF, not just given the extra responsibility of being
flagship.

As to this point there wouldn't be a solution to it. The solution is that, any CV user,
should take a stand. And not let BBs climb over your head. You are the CV, you know whats
best for your team ( sending out FTs or DBs/TBs first ).


4) AA Ships
- Review the damage on planes independently. Meaning, for T1 planes i would buff the
damage of the AA guns by 5% ( causing 105% damage unto the planes ). T2 would receive only
95% damage. T3 would receive only 90%. Locals should receive 115% damage.
* Please note that the above is not related to fighter-fighter dogfights. It should only
be applied to AA Gunship to Planes.
( The above percentiles are only for FTs,
just wondering if this is possible ).

  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 20. 2010 05:44

Meastro444
The teamkilling that goes on with fighters. It annoys me to no end.

  • Re : Getting CV Drivers back flying again - Discussion

    05. 20. 2010 04:54

Rengokuy
1) Crew death
This can eaisly be fixed. True enough that'll bring me out for a little bit, but I've
long since stopped putting cash into my CV. It'd still be a good thing to do.

2) Player abuse (bullying and insults)
This isn't going to stop. I'd be amazed if SDE finds a way to stop it, but it just isn't.
That'st he biggest deturent to playing the CV

3) TB's DB's shortened range

4) Locals need resolving (?)
Nothing is wrong with locals.


My pet peeves
The $$$ Fighter Whore CV
Some of you may be them, it's fun, I know. ITs still super demoralizing to just....fight
you though. The majoirty of Fighter whores also Fighter Drag, you know that wonderful
exploit. Theres absolutly no fun in playing with people like that. Unless you're that
pesron...then it's fun.

This really can't be fixed.....it's a good $$$ for SDE, however, the exploit, fighter
dragging, that can be fixed. Or at least made punishable.


AA Ships
Yeh, I love to AA. I even made suggestions about adding more AA ships in game. Doesn't
really matter though since AA is utterly insane in game. I particularly love when you
even lag out. A single 4gold bar Moltke can pretty much make the entire match suck for
you when you're a CV.

How to fix that...bugger if I know.

Really...the big issure with carriers is. It's just not fun. Unless you're a glutton for
pain and repetitveness, there's no allure to play aircraft carrier.