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NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 12. 2011 00:14
Florak
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i think just about every player in Navyfield is getting tired of getting killed by Hedgehogs........When theyre in a Surface Ship.
i Believe Hedgehogs should be nerfed so that heir damage to ships on the surface is next to nothing (10 dmg / HH)
And that Hedgehogs should be banned from Blitz..... Hedgehogs are Anti Sub weapons.
so obviously there is no need for them in a Game type that doesnt have Subs.
I'm sure im not the only one getting a little tired of Hedgehogs, I just wanted to try and get the Ball rolling on the topic
feel free to post any more ideas on the matter.
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 03:08
sixtycastle
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So nerf HHs what about torp whore kitas, they should realy dumb those things down a lot they are a bigger pain in the ass than HHs in my opinion.
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 09:42
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killbill9413
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yes
i agree with that
hh is designed for against ss, but not bb
hh did too much attack on on normal ship
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 10:22
Humberto20
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Time To do some Balance Criticism:
One of ONF leaders, LJserven ( Administrator ) supposed to be "Impartial" to ship classes and armaments
But, lately for many PHH are obviously Strong, "I cant say anything related PHH-SS, but PHH-BB's/CV's. I ve seem
him Criticing and Complaitning so much only About submarines in the last months, or lets say it since they came out, but very few times or none, i ve seem him Making topics about PHH's Or ASW. "He says he also thinks, they are Overpowered, but i havent seen any action from him, to make proposal to PHH or ASW. So in theory. it is ok to You ljserven that ASW can woop the BB's and Cv's with1-2 full salvo of Phhs and kill it, way lower in level than SS's? but Submarines Cant? Is that a joke? I dont know, you answer me. Since you and other people are involved in projects that affects all us,, at least we deserve some explanation.Question, If you cant stand for a ship class, why do you have a Admin position with ONF?
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 10:33
OttoReinhold
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Originally Posted by Humberto20
Since you and other people are involved in projects that affects all us,, at least we deserve some explanation.
You can always get involved yourself. Simply crying for "nerf nerf nerf" wont be welcome though. The reason most old school players don't complain about PHH much is because they know it is extremely difficult to convince SDE to change it. Oh and because most of them rightfully believe subs are overpowered, of course. PHH being used to kill BBs/CVs is a non-issue by the way. If you fail to hit them properly before they get in range they could kill you with many other weapons as well.
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 11:18
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by OttoReinhold
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Since you and other people are involved in projects that affects all us,, at least we deserve some explanation.
You can always get involved yourself. Simply crying for "nerf nerf nerf" wont be welcome though. The reason most old school players don't complain about PHH much is because they know it is extremely difficult to convince SDE to change it. Oh and because most of them rightfully believe subs are overpowered, of course. PHH being used to kill BBs/CVs is a non-issue by the way. If you fail to hit them properly before they get in range they could kill you with many other weapons as well.
"What it fails to me, is that according to Ljserven : a level 70 ship killing a bb6 he complaints about that, but when a nother ship cass in level lower than that kills a BB6, he doesnt."
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 12:23
occilater
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Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by OttoReinhold
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Since you and other people are involved in projects that affects all us,, at least we deserve some explanation.
You can always get involved yourself. Simply crying for "nerf nerf nerf" wont be welcome though. The reason most old school players don't complain about PHH much is because they know it is extremely difficult to convince SDE to change it. Oh and because most of them rightfully believe subs are overpowered, of course. PHH being used to kill BBs/CVs is a non-issue by the way. If you fail to hit them properly before they get in range they could kill you with many other weapons as well.
"What it fails to me, is that according to Ljserven : a level 70 ship killing a bb6 he complaints about that, but when a nother ship cass in level lower than that kills a BB6, he doesnt."
Difference... The moltke can't submerge...
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 12:29
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by occilater
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by OttoReinhold
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Since you and other people are involved in projects that affects all us,, at least we deserve some explanation.
You can always get involved yourself. Simply crying for "nerf nerf nerf" wont be welcome though. The reason most old school players don't complain about PHH much is because they know it is extremely difficult to convince SDE to change it. Oh and because most of them rightfully believe subs are overpowered, of course. PHH being used to kill BBs/CVs is a non-issue by the way. If you fail to hit them properly before they get in range they could kill you with many other weapons as well.
"What it fails to me, is that according to Ljserven : a level 70 ship killing a bb6 he complaints about that, but when a nother ship cass in level lower than that kills a BB6, he doesnt."
Difference... The moltke can't submerge...
Difference is not about submerge..We are talking what Lj is talking, About ships level.
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 12:50
klaas1928
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Originally Posted by Admiralhokek
nxt cry topic.
if u wanna nerf hhs than first nerf subs dmg
Ur dang right there hokek!
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 12:53
klaas1928
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Originally Posted by AUST_DEVINE
if you have a problem by being hit with HH while your in a surface ship then let me tell you the problem is you.
Only when ur in a BC/BB though...
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Re : NERF HEDGEHOGS
08. 16. 2011 18:51
Humberto20
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Originally Posted by Falcon91
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by occilater
Originally Posted by Humberto20
Originally Posted by OttoReinhold
You can always get involved yourself. Simply crying for "nerf nerf nerf" wont be welcome though. The reason most old school players don't complain about PHH much is because they know it is extremely difficult to convince SDE to change it. Oh and because most of them rightfully believe subs are overpowered, of course.
PHH being used to kill BBs/CVs is a non-issue by the way. If you fail to hit them properly before they get in range they could kill you with many other weapons as well.
"What it fails to me, is that according to Ljserven : a level 70 ship killing a bb6 he complaints about that, but when a nother ship cass in level lower than that kills a BB6, he doesnt."
Difference... The moltke can't submerge...
Difference is not about submerge..We are talking what Lj is talking, About ships level.
He only states one factor...in a bb3 i can kill a bb6 does that mean the bb3 is OP? No it means the team around the bb6 failed and/or the bb6 failed. A SS can submerge and be invincible to BB's this is the point were trying to get through your thick skull. So unless you have a ASW DD/CL/FF around you, then your screwed. So look at it this way humberto, if you were in a BB and a sub came out of nowhere you can't hit it nor can anyone around you wouldn't that frustrate you?
If i were a BB, i ll pay attention as much as i can. If i have to disengage,PRESS G back to my ship, see where the torps are coming from, Run in angle where the ss wont catch until it runs out of air, use HH as much as i can, as i know, the submarine at that point doesnt have much air left, so after it runs out of air, use my cannons, Solution= Pay attention and not acting like cindirella making drama or standing like a statue or just moving Around, The reasons Why most bb gets killed: 1-Or you are STOP and FIRING. 2-Moving One side or 1 direction without paying attention. 3-Rushing. Why should i be frustrated?If i were a BB, and a whole bunch dozens Bombers and killed me, should i frustrated? NO FRIENDLY FPS, you die, NO friendly ASW, you Die.
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