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  • Meeting Actions - *Update 2*

    12. 02. 2012 01:58


vick11

Actions from the Fleet Leader meeting on 1st December:

 

1.  Randy will request a specific update on the issue of HA:

-  Core HA update and crashing issues.

-  HA Battle Mode.

-  Timeline and place in priorities.

*In progress*

*Update 2 - Very grateful for the reporting of HA bugs, please keep those coming in.  The Devs are working to replicate those in testing to then continue working on solutions.  There have been some changes introduced over the last couple of patches so any news on how HA is working would be welcomed on tickets.*

 

2.  We will question SDE about the Achievement System that was on the original work plan for 2012.  Is it still on the list or has it been removed, if still an aspiration what is happening with it?

*Update 2 - Investigation showed that the introduction of a meaningful achievement system within the current game engine would be a major project and so it was put on hold for the time being whilst other work is done.  It may get reserected later.*

 

3.  We will explore the possibility of a Poll system that pops-up at the Login page (only once per account for each Poll) to encourage greater participation in Polls.

*Being considered*

4.  When the new Fleet Leader forum opens we will discuss topics for meaningful, constructive, Polls.

*Waiting for Fleet Leader forum area in new construct - second priority after Amazon project*

 

5.  The Fleet Leader forum area is being worked on, but we will get an estimate as to when it may appear.

*No2 priority to Amazon - latest estimate is start of Feb 13"

 

6.  The new Fleet Leader area will be permission based rather than automatically linked to account status.  As such we will be able to consider cases for specific access beyond pure Fleet Leaders or Fleet Accounts if there is tangible benefit, eg some of the Testers on a case-by-case basis.

*As above*

 

7.  Trainworld content is useful, but falling behind recent changes as it is not a SDE resource and very much reliant on a single person.  Need to explore whether the asset can be incorporated to NF.com and kept upto date or elements of it replicated on the core site. 

*Unfortunately SDE cannot take over the updating or content of trainworld, which is privately owned/operated/updated and thereby reliant on that person*

 

8.  Update '/' commands in-game and in the guides.  Anyone with input to that please forward to Head Moderator who will request the update.

*Passed to Devs - thank you for inputs*

 

9.  Update and expand game guides.  We intend to set work going on this with the revised Fleet Leader forum area (that will be read to all, write for Fleet Leaders).  

*Some background work started on this (thanks to Lj and Darkfrost) - considering a way to get wider involvement ahead of FL area as well*

 

10.  Explore whether the Test Server can be same loading as main game but then a branch option from the Login page to save having to use a separate client.  There was a similar option in the past, can it be done again?

*Question asked - Waiting on response*

*Update 2 - although this was possible a few years ago for a short time, unfortunately it is not technically possible with today's version*

 

11.  Forum Rules and Server Rules review, plus application of rules.  We will open these discussions in the revised Fleet Leader area.

*Waiting on FL area - could be an agenda item for Fleet Summit?*

 

12.  Randy will establish an issues update thread that he will endeavour to update weekly on any progress across a range of issues and questions so we can attempt to better track and communicate where we are on developments, timeframes and priorities.

 

13.  We will consult SDE about producing a 'public' version of the Moderator Manual so players can better understand how TeamNF is constructed, how it works and its accountability, and the processes for complaint.

*Draft sent to SDE for consideration*

*Update 2 - Draft approved.  Should appear as a pdf on the Download > Manual > Public Mod Manual  link in the near future*

 

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On a side note, Randy talked about advertisement of the game through Amazon to attract new players and linkages with them on item payment.  Hopefully there will be more news on this in the near future.

 

 

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 13. 2012 16:31


vk222u

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Definately, there was a distinct lack of being prepared from the TNF/SDE members in the meeting; it felt as if they hadn't read the agenda or got answers from the Dev's before hand.

12 days on, we still haven't heard anything. Heard little/nothing regarding the server crashes. Heard little/nothing about the event.

well Randy has made a update post with information as he said he would, he did say that the ability to give full details on things might not be available but he did make a post.

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 13. 2012 20:40


BlackProject

Originally Posted by vk222u

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Definately, there was a distinct lack of being prepared from the TNF/SDE members in the meeting; it felt as if they hadn't read the agenda or got answers from the Dev's before hand.

12 days on, we still haven't heard anything. Heard little/nothing regarding the server crashes. Heard little/nothing about the event.

well Randy has made a update post with information as he said he would, he did say that the ability to give full details on things might not be available but he did make a post.

But what he didnt do was give us his full attention in the meeting.

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 18. 2012 12:36


ljsevern

[QUOTE=Agenda]

**Devildog8 Raised**

  • SDEs involvment: **Why they wont get involved more in talking to the community**

  • monthly news letter: **a monthly news letter needs to be made every month to let the community know of progress on game inner works, why isnt it?**

  • balancing of content before release: **has been a growing issue for years, what are your solutions to this issue?**
  •  
  • Forums: **Why have the forums turned into a bashing fest, and not taken control off by the forum mods.**
  •  
  • Information: **the website needs to be upgraded to give more information to current players and new players. Eg: 'HA results', 'Guides', 'Fleet information', Current players online'.**
  •  
  • Fleet Tag Size: **A 20x20 pixel image can be hard to make, possible upgrade to 30x30 or 40x40 to help give fleets more options.**
  •  
  • AFK hosts in game: **We need to have a system were AFK host do not stop the rooms from going, maybe given punishments to AFK hosts as this has gotten out of hand.**

**Cracko Raised**

  • Improve the current "suggestion system" with real answers, feedback and if possible, dialogue:  **will need to read his post**

  • Give proper answers to the great amount of good suggestions that are there right now: **will need to read his post**

  • Fix the TNF once for all, descentralization, reestructuration, regeneration looking for more efficency and also highlight the task of bridge of comunication bewteen SDE and community: **will need to read his post**

  • Put Fleet leaders forums to work, put trolls under control and make those forums real hybrid forums between TNF and Fleet Leaders:  **will need to read his post**

**Deral Raised**

  • #1-SDE does not interact with its players in game and barely in forums:
    ** That job has been left to TNF to be the sole voice of NF. SDE has made TNF into something it was never meant to be. TNF can not do what they were meant to do because of the vast gap between SDE and TNF. Too many people think TNF=SDE and that has caused major problems in the past. Seeing SDE in game is as rare as a KM Harbor Assault not bugging on the harbor tile. (See topic #8)**

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 18. 2012 12:50


devildog8

[QUOTE=ljsevern]

[quote=Agenda]

**Devildog8 Raised**

  • SDEs involvment: **Why they wont get involved more in talking to the community**

  • monthly news letter: **a monthly news letter needs to be made every month to let the community know of progress on game inner works, why isnt it?**

  • balancing of content before release: **has been a growing issue for years, what are your solutions to this issue?**
  •  
  • Forums: **Why have the forums turned into a bashing fest, and not taken control off by the forum mods.**
  •  
  • Information: **the website needs to be upgraded to give more information to current players and new players. Eg: 'HA results', 'Guides', 'Fleet information', Current players online'.**
  •  
  • Fleet Tag Size: **A 20x20 pixel image can be hard to make, possible upgrade to 30x30 or 40x40 to help give fleets more options.**
  •  
  • AFK hosts in game: **We need to have a system were AFK host do not stop the rooms from going, maybe given punishments to AFK hosts as this has gotten out of hand.**

**Cracko Raised**

  • Improve the current "suggestion system" with real answers, feedback and if possible, dialogue:  **will need to read his post**

  • Give proper answers to the great amount of good suggestions that are there right now: **will need to read his post**

  • Fix the TNF once for all, descentralization, reestructuration, regeneration looking for more efficency and also highlight the task of bridge of comunication bewteen SDE and community: **will need to read his post**

  • Put Fleet leaders forums to work, put trolls under control and make those forums real hybrid forums between TNF and Fleet Leaders:  **will need to read his post**

**Deral Raised**

  • #1-SDE does not interact with its players in game and barely in forums:
    ** That job has been left to TNF to be the sole voice of NF. SDE has made TNF into something it was never meant to be. TNF can not do what they were meant to do because of the vast gap between SDE and TNF. Too many people think TNF=SDE and that has caused major problems in the past. Seeing SDE in game is as rare as a KM Harbor Assault not bugging on the harbor tile. (See topic #8)**<

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 18. 2012 14:35


vk222u

Originally Posted by devildog8

I agree this game doesnt sleep it should be monitored 24/7 in case of issues

I tried to talk to Randy after the discussion but from wat I got back it seemed SDE will not hire any GMs from outside korea so having the game monitored by a paid GM who is there to make sure the game is running is highly unlikely.

 

-vk

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 18. 2012 14:56


ljsevern

Originally Posted by vk222u

Originally Posted by devildog8

I agree this game doesnt sleep it should be monitored 24/7 in case of issues

I tried to talk to Randy after the discussion but from wat I got back it seemed SDE will not hire any GMs from outside korea so having the game monitored by a paid GM who is there to make sure the game is running is highly unlikely.

-vk

Then they should pay someone from korea to do the night shift. Either that, or some GM's in the EU or EST timezones.

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 18. 2012 15:10


vk222u

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by vk222u

Originally Posted by devildog8

I agree this game doesnt sleep it should be monitored 24/7 in case of issues

I tried to talk to Randy after the discussion but from wat I got back it seemed SDE will not hire any GMs from outside korea so having the game monitored by a paid GM who is there to make sure the game is running is highly unlikely.

-vk

Then they should pay someone from korea to do the night shift. Either that, or some GM's in the EU or EST timezones.

 

I agree wit that completely, but I would say the reason they don't want to hire GMs outside korea is the laguage barrier as the main GMs can't really speak English.

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 26. 2012 05:23


ljsevern

[QUOTE=ljsevern]

[QUOTE=Agenda]

**Devildog8 Raised**

  • SDEs involvment: **Why they wont get involved more in talking to the community**

  • monthly news letter: **a monthly news letter needs to be made every month to let the community know of progress on game inner works, why isnt it?**

  • balancing of content before release: **has been a growing issue for years, what are your solutions to this issue?**
  •  
  • Forums: **Why have the forums turned into a bashing fest, and not taken control off by the forum mods.**
  •  
  • Information: **the website needs to be upgraded to give more information to current players and new players. Eg: 'HA results', 'Guides', 'Fleet information', Current players online'.**
  •  
  • Fleet Tag Size: **A 20x20 pixel image can be hard to make, possible upgrade to 30x30 or 40x40 to help give fleets more options.**
  •  
  • AFK hosts in game: **We need to have a system were AFK host do not stop the rooms from going, maybe given punishments to AFK hosts as this has gotten out of hand.**

**Cracko Raised**

  • Improve the current "suggestion system" with real answers, feedback and if possible, dialogue:  **will need to read his post**

  • Give proper answers to the great amount of good suggestions that are there right now: **will need to read his post**

  • Fix the TNF once for all, descentralization, reestructuration, regeneration looking for more efficency and also highlight the task of bridge of comunication bewteen SDE and community: **will need to read his post**

  • Put Fleet leaders forums to work, put trolls under control and make those forums real hybrid forums between TNF and Fleet Leaders:  **will need to read his post**

**Deral Raised**

  • #1-SDE does not interact with its players in game and barely in forums:
    ** That job has been left to TNF to be the sole voice of NF. SDE has made TNF into something it was never meant to be. TNF can not do what they were meant to do because of the vast gap between SDE and TNF. Too many people think TNF=SDE and that has caused major problems in the past. Seeing SDE in game is as rare as a KM Harbor Assault not bugging on the harbor tile. (See topic #8)**<

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 26. 2012 05:39


vk222u

Good to see 2 updates done already, would like a update on the first weeks lot just to clear up some questions and give us a bit more info if possible also how long does it take to put up a Fleet leaders forums, the merge is not completely over and I would say now would be the best time to have it put up.

-VK

P.S I have sent vick a message in regards to the next meeting and possible places for it to be held, I want it on TS3 this time so we can do some talking rather than typing, I have my TS which is already set up for a meeting of this type, or TNF ts can be used.

  • Re : Meeting Actions

    12. 26. 2012 06:46


ljsevern

Originally Posted by vk222u

Good to see 2 updates done already, would like a update on the first weeks lot just to clear up some questions and give us a bit more info if possible also how long does it take to put up a Fleet leaders forums, the merge is not completely over and I would say now would be the best time to have it put up.

-VK

P.S I have sent vick a message in regards to the next meeting and possible places for it to be held, I want it on TS3 this time so we can do some talking rather than typing, I have my TS which is already set up for a meeting of this type, or TNF ts can be used.

Yet, they haven't put up any official minutes or publically answered any of the agenda items.

And 2 updates done already? Thats 2 updates in a month, where there have been constant problems, server errors, event errors, non communication of the event, mess ups of advertised room boosts/conversion boosts, chat server errors, login server errors...

Haven't seen any post from Vick in a long time and the fleet leader forums is already overdue.

These things shouldn't be going on in PM between you and Vick; should be posted on here.

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