"Thank you for clarifying that you have at least a 1st grade education (reading). I'm not
sure if your teacher/classmates told you, so I'll let you in on a little secret... That is
the point of a rock/paper/scissors balance model."

The point is, the rock paper scissors model in Navyfield isn't Auto win. Congrats in not having
common sense.

Obviously you have no idea regarding game balance, haven't bothered reading my posts, so
i'll just ignore you in future.

what we really need its a a good balance no more frigging usless nerfs

playing on SS1 or SS2 its very frustrating (mostly the SS1) but when u change to SS3
the gameplay change a lot in your favor and for the SS4 with high lvl crew its a
BB eating machine.

my idea is add a SS5 and SS6 BUT (please read before whining)
the actual stats of SS4 use them for the SS6 (but add more displacement for the
sailors) and for the SS4 and SS5 try to balance or divide stats between the actual
SS3 and the posible SS6

everybody complaing about a high lvl BBs being killed by low lvl players SS
but when a SS4 is killed in one hit by a FF (DC) that normal...
deal with it ppl, for the subs isnt easy too

I wonder if BB players know what is bulge

NO! NO! NO!

Subs have been nerfed enough already, it's difficult for a sub to get through the line
and attack capital ships. Anti-sub weapons are far more powerful on a comparative
level to any similar weapon and their range is far greater.

A submarine torpedo is a powerful weapon, you only need to see how many major
warships including battle ships were sunk by them during WWll.

When a sub kills a major warship it is down to the skill of the player and the lack of
cooperation and skill on the opposing side.

Stop looking to blame sub driver and look to yourselves!

"I already know how to read, again, I feel that both SS gameplay and ASW gameplay is too
easy... "
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Thank you for clarifying that you have at least a 1st grade education (reading). I'm not
sure if your teacher/classmates told you, so I'll let you in on a little secret... That is
the point of a rock/paper/scissors balance model.

Torp damage is already stupidly high as it is, and reload is too fast and caps out way too
early.

I already know how to read, again, I feel that both SS gameplay and ASW gameplay is too
easy. If you had read my earlier posts, you would see that.

Even with the removal of dud torps, giving the primary target subs are designed to hunt
the ability to see them is far too much with the subs limited firing window/arcs... And
you want to reduce damage and reload on top of that - Talk about getting an auto I Win ship.

LOL somebody needs to learn to read.

I never said I can't kill BB in SS. I masacre BB's in SS. But same goes for ASW. I
masacre SS even more in a ASW ship. Even without PHH. Thus SS are balance for
now...

Instead of making further temporary changes now, wait untill SS5 and SS6 are
introduced. Then rebalance SS in a single shot.

Whether you laugh at nub ASW players, that's another story. I can also say the
same in BB's. I laugh at max altitude bombers. AA needs to be nerfed? Turning force
needs to be nerfed? Not really...

Put equally skilled players in those ships then test them out. Put nubs VS nubs and
Pro's VS Pro's and see how things turn out.

True, SS needs to be adjusted, but nerf or buff is not the words I would use to
describe what needs to be done.

"I think giving a BB the ability to see submerged subs as well as 1 shot it is too much...
Not to mention raising their level, nerfing damage/reload and keeping dud torps. "

Not in combination of the other changes.

And the one shot will only happen if the Sub has a low level crew, and the BB isn't using
PHH.

As I said in a previous post which you clearly didn't read, Dud torps can only be removed if
they get rid of the massive splash damage. Otherwise its an effective DPS buff.

I totally agree Gtdawn and lukas suggestions.

"... Allow all ships to run a sonarman..."
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I think giving a BB the ability to see submerged subs as well as 1 shot it is too much...
Not to mention raising their level, nerfing damage/reload and keeping dud torps.

I like the idea of customization though. Instead of just proxy, throw in variations of
torp speed/range/damage/duds and if possible, splash radius/damage. I think its all for
naught though as any changes made would just make more whine/rage threads.