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Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
12. 31. 2013 07:53
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Telegraph
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As the World at War rooms are bb exclusive for the most part just forbid subs from ever entering, like Blitz.
If the general playerbase thinks World at War should remove the no submarine option, then recommend this thread. It is past the time for World At War to include submarine without discriminating.
War entails RISK, not Molly-Coddling surface ship players.
Yes I know that NavyField =/= Real Life and this game displays this situational fact everyday.
Recommend that the No Torp option be removed forever.
CV uses sonar so the argument "we can't see subs" or "we want to use escorts" does not stand. If you are afraid to sail out by yourself, then follow modern military protocol and stay near the carriers.
All that is required is minor behavioral modification and intelligence/strategy application on the part of bb drivers to remain near the sonar equipped surface vessels.
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 06:12
nyerkovic
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Originally Posted by Telegraph
The No Torp option provides an exclusionary environment. There is the "Select room" option available for bb players to make exclusionary rooms. Obviously the exp gain is not the same though. I suppose if I wanted to keep over powered bb ib business, I would keep the No Torp option to exclude any competition that I did not feel needed to be present as well. Why not rename the room to "BB Select Room II"? ( Like the GBII")
Either it is World at War or it isn't.
Now the obvious remains, as there is not really a desire of the playerbase to support the removal of the No Torp option. The bottom line is that World at War high exp rooms basically translates currently to bb only. Nothing changes the obvious.
Blitz excludes ships, Select room excludes ships, Skirmish excludes ships, GB1-2 can exclude ships. Yes, every room is an exclusionary environment, there is no news there and it is not really an argument. The reason you have to look for is "why it is excluded?". None of the above facts I pointed out before was addressed in your answer, so the underlying problem still remains and your diagnosis of the situation is still wrong.
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 06:54
Telegraph
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Originally Posted by nyerkovic
Originally Posted by Telegraph
The No Torp option provides an exclusionary environment. There is the "Select room" option available for bb players to make exclusionary rooms. Obviously the exp gain is not the same though. I suppose if I wanted to keep over powered bb ib business, I would keep the No Torp option to exclude any competition that I did not feel needed to be present as well. Why not rename the room to "BB Select Room II"? ( Like the GBII")
Either it is World at War or it isn't.
Now the obvious remains, as there is not really a desire of the playerbase to support the removal of the No Torp option. The bottom line is that World at War high exp rooms basically translates currently to bb only. Nothing changes the obvious.
Blitz excludes ships, Select room excludes ships, Skirmish excludes ships, GB1-2 can exclude ships. Yes, every room is an exclusionary environment, there is no news there and it is not really an argument. The reason you have to look for is "why it is excluded?". None of the above facts I pointed out before was addressed in your answer, so the underlying problem still remains and your diagnosis of the situation is still wrong.
You are in charge of the ASW/SS project I believe. Seemingly though that the room which offers the greatest exp benefit would not contain an option to be exclusionary. 7 votes (currently -> 1-6-2014) for removing the No Torp option will not be enough to warrant change. There is not enough support to validate change. Maybe later.
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 07:03
Pierlon
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if its a problem host your own WAW with torp (see how many people join)
And its for all of us the same.
Solution, use your BO and crew on event or prem ship to grind them as far as you like
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 07:09
woodskier
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Originally Posted by bergy
Just another whining thread from the minority of like 3% of the server population.
Stop whining , host your own rooms.
Telegraph, some time ago a few BB6 elite stole control over many aspects of NF. Any thing that threatens thier control of the game is nerfed or blocked. W W 2 had a similar event occur.....the "Black Shoe Gun Club" The BSGC were insider BB captains who interfered with growth of CV and SS in the USnavy. They had total control. They lost power ( about 1941 ) when President Truman was made aware of thier illegal activities. Many were demoted, shunned and banished to places like Scranton and Winnemucca.
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 15:41
Bergy1972
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Originally Posted by woodskier
Originally Posted by bergy
Just another whining thread from the minority of like 3% of the server population.
Stop whining , host your own rooms.
Telegraph, some time ago a few BB6 elite stole control over many aspects of NF. Any thing that threatens thier control of the game is nerfed or blocked. W W 2 had a similar event occur.....the "Black Shoe Gun Club" The BSGC were insider BB captains who interfered with growth of CV and SS in the USnavy. They had total control. They lost power ( about 1941 ) when President Truman was made aware of thier illegal activities. Many were demoted, shunned and banished to places like Scranton and Winnemucca.
you really need proffesional help woody
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 16:13
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PictWarrior1
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Originally Posted by woodskier
The BSGC were insider BB captains who interfered with growth of CV and SS in the USnavy.
They had total control. They lost power ( about 1941 ) when President Truman was made aware of thier illegal activities. Many were demoted, shunned and banished to places like Scranton and Winnemucca.
Yes they existed as an informal "club" which was more of an unofficial brotherhood. But they never really had that much power because of it. Their influence was simply because they were "old-school" admirals from the Dreadnought era who didn't see the future with a lot of aircraft in it. However, it was many of these same admirals who then brought about the change of dominance to the aircraft carrier and the many CVEs following Pearl Harbor and especially after Coral Sea and Midway. The Marianas Turkey Shoot proved to be such irrefutable evidence as well, that the vast majority of USN brass as well as those of most other nations easily changed their minds and put a lot of weight and pressure behind the CV.
As for the SS, it was never truly appreciated by many outside of the Axis powers because it was then, as it still is to some extent, a weapon intended for silent and infrequent strikes. the reason it was so popular to the Axis was because it was cheap to produce, cheap to operate, expendable, and carried a very small (also expendable) crew. For resource poor nations like Japan, it was the best answer to a very severe problem. For Germany, it was the answer to the Allied blockade and served well to disrupt shipping. SS never really turned the tide of war thanks to quick advances in ASDIC and ASW and only rarely did a submarine actually attack, much less sink a BB because they were so fragile.
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 17:04
Cracko
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Originally Posted by woodskier
Originally Posted by bergy
Just another whining thread from the minority of like 3% of the server population.
Stop whining , host your own rooms.
Telegraph, some time ago a few BB6 elite stole control over many aspects of NF. Any thing that threatens thier control of the game is nerfed or blocked. W W 2 had a similar event occur.....the "Black Shoe Gun Club" The BSGC were insider BB captains who interfered with growth of CV and SS in the USnavy. They had total control. They lost power ( about 1941 ) when President Truman was made aware of thier illegal activities. Many were demoted, shunned and banished to places like Scranton and Winnemucca.
Nice analogy.
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 17:51
PictWarrior1
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Originally Posted by Cracko
Originally Posted by woodskier
Originally Posted by bergy
Just another whining thread from the minority of like 3% of the server population.
Stop whining , host your own rooms.
Telegraph, some time ago a few BB6 elite stole control over many aspects of NF. Any thing that threatens thier control of the game is nerfed or blocked. W W 2 had a similar event occur.....the "Black Shoe Gun Club" The BSGC were insider BB captains who interfered with growth of CV and SS in the USnavy. They had total control. They lost power ( about 1941 ) when President Truman was made aware of thier illegal activities. Many were demoted, shunned and banished to places like Scranton and Winnemucca.
Nice analogy.
even if it's highly innacurate and only partially told? refer to my post above yours for more information that is not taken out of context and exaggerated.
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 21:57
woodskier
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Originally Posted by Bergy1972
Originally Posted by woodskier
Originally Posted by bergy
Just another whining thread from the minority of like 3% of the server population.
Stop whining , host your own rooms.
Telegraph, some time ago a few BB6 elite stole control over many aspects of NF. Any thing that threatens thier control of the game is nerfed or blocked. W W 2 had a similar event occur.....the "Black Shoe Gun Club" The BSGC were insider BB captains who interfered with growth of CV and SS in the USnavy. They had total control. They lost power ( about 1941 ) when President Truman was made aware of thier illegal activities. Many were demoted, shunned and banished to places like Scranton and Winnemucca.
you really need proffesional help woody
Navy Field Forum,section; suggestion. Possible attempt to demean and/or diminish Possible false light. date: 1/6/2014 ( attempts to demean are possibly, or truly, in violation of NF formun stated policies)
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Re : Remove the No Torp option from World At War rooms
01. 06. 2014 23:15
PictWarrior1
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please lock this thread before it becomes any more adolescent
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