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  • THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 15. 2010 03:34

NZRogue
This is to be used only to suggest changes.

There have been many, many, omg MANY Sub suggestion threads and topics, so here is the idea.

You guys all pick some of the concepts, ideas buffs nerfs etc from all the other threads
and add them here.

While you are welcome to discuss why a change would or would not work, keep it to a
logical and clear discussion.

No - "you are only a BB whinner"
No - "You are bias sub driver" in fact any insults will have their post hidden

Make your point - Make it clearly, make it once - anything else will be thermonuked as
will all other sub threads from here on in really.

Tell SDE what you want to see from Subs and sub play with BB play etc for the future

I'll keep checking in and see what you guys have come up with, there is some brilliant
ideas I have read thus far and look forward to them all in one thread and see where it
progresses, hopefully to a positive conclusion where, at least most of the community will
be happy with the changes (if any)

*Ninja Edit
Please no long winded posts, keep it short
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  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 12:48

jimmyawsome
NO. I enjoy having an impact on the game.

I just got my crew rolling good and BAM SS gets nerfed. No problem. Just a review of
my tactics and back in business.

Like the guy said earlier. When has a BB or CV had to change tactics to survive?

It's a retorical question.

Not to mention that a BB has never in world history "one shotted" by putting all shells
from all guns on target and sunk a ship.

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 12:42

Ramp4ge
Exactly. You want a fictory boat. You want an invisible POW.

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 12:26

jimmyawsome
Which is why I play SS.

I don't enjoy "sitting back."

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 12:11

Ramp4ge
The CL can sit back, AA, be beneficial to the team and never get touched.

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 12:08

jimmyawsome
I am saying the CL gets creamed.

Yea general I want god mode.

I'll take the 3 you agree with and call that a win.

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 11:46

generals4
"I will not comment on anything but these 6 items in any further discussions.

1. SS need to be able to move during critical dive. Being froze is just dumb.
2. Critical dive loss rate needs BUFF of the same magical percentage as HE nerf.
3. Timers need to be extended for HH/DC.
4. Sonar precision needs nerf.
5. SS need same advantage of gun removal that surface ships have.
6. 40% more air for SS1-2 and 20% more air for SS 3-4."


So you want subs to be God-mode vessels?

I don't know if you even thought about what you suggested but here is what it would do:
The buffs on critical dive will literally make of crit dive a /god-mode button . One of
the 2 suggestions is ok but both combined is just... "wobble" .
Than add to that ASW with longer timers : God Mode Crit + slow det ASW = Useless ASW . =>
subs almost invulnerable under water .
Sonar precision nerf?! why? so we can't even detect accurately those subs with their new
God-mode ? Ye right .
about 5 , meh , don't care.
Now lets add 6. And we have lvl 38 Ships making BB6's look like a waste of time.

Now sure i agree with 6. and agree either 1 or 2 could be implemented , but , all together
with no nerfs on the SS side? Hah , you don't care about balance .

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 11:40

Ramp4ge
Apparently I was looking at the weight of the tube. My mistake.

"PS If you want the REAL definition of fictory and a display of overpower, play GB2 with
a CL and guns instead of ASW."

CL with guns = overpowered?

That's a first.

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 11:38

jimmyawsome
I don't know what YOUR torpedoes weigh but MY torpedoes weigh 2 tons.

PS If you want the REAL definition of fictory and a display of overpower, play GB2 with a
CL and guns instead of ASW.

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 11:21

Ramp4ge
15 tons.

15 tons is going to get you 0 deck (16 tons per 0.1 inch), 0.1" belt (13 tons at 0.1 inch),
1 bulge (11 tons at 1 click), 1 bulkhead (9 at 1 click)..

15 tons would allow you 1 more torpedo, since the G7e T2 weighs 8 tons.

So that's not going to save you much.

  • Re : THE Sub suggestion thread

    05. 19. 2010 11:15

jimmyawsome
Lets use your 5 ton figure.

3 guns times 5 tons gets me 15 tons of free armor or the ability to carry more torpedoes
and still be able to reach top speed or a higher level crew before a speed penalty.