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  • Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 07. 2011 16:03


Thebarrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_63XG6QMN0 

something has to be said here.......

ps: the settup of the ships are in the Description of the video.... ps: the sub had 900 sd  

 

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 11. 2011 10:22


V2CxBongRipz
Originally Posted by DJDeath

Team work will lessen the effect of unbalanced content, but that doesn't mean it should always be the sole remedy. ASW is a real hard counter to any SS (unless it's 1vs1 when the sub can just surface to avoid HH damage instead of crit diving). I don't like hard counters. Between nations, UK for example is supposed to counter KM in many tiers because of armour and KM's inherent weakness to armour. However, that doesn't mean UK will always win against a KM ship.

Same should go for SS and ASW. It's wrong that SS can die by just one salvo of HHs from a ship with a much lower level, and BBs of the same level shouldn't be as easy to kill by subs as some are now. I'd like to see sub gameplay become more interesting and fun, and that means buffing subs in some aspects, while nerfing others.

PS: The sense of NF devs is very limited, otherwise they would have properly balanced and tested the whole sub line, before putting it on the server.


Valid arguments like this will always be ignored by sub players that want to keep their stuff OP.

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 11. 2011 10:41


MrSparkle
The real discussion is going on in the Test Server forum. That's where I posted my views. This thread isn't half as useful.

Basically my views: SS level requirements should be raised, SS1 and 2 should be buffed, and no more whining about lower level SS being able to kill higher level BB. A level 20 DD can kill a level 80+ SS4 and I don't see complaints about that, so why the whining?

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 11. 2011 10:44


DJDeath
Originally Posted by MrSparkle

A level 20 DD can kill a level 80+ SS4 and I don't see complaints about that, so why the whining?


Originally Posted by DJDeath

It's wrong that SS can die by just one salvo of HHs from a ship with a much lower level

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 11. 2011 10:44


nyerkovic
Originally Posted by V2CxBongRipz


Valid arguments like this will always be ignored by sub players that want to keep their stuff OP.


I feel that most of the time, its just people who are bound by current ship characteristics and because of that, cant look at this issue from another point of view other than "my ship will be nerfed".

They fail to see that all stats can be changed and that SS role can be so much more with a combination of buffs and nerfs, ASW can be worked at some point and exp system can be corrected if the right moves happen.

In the test server section, some people are starting to understand this and the conversation is going somewhere.

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 11. 2011 10:54


MrSparkle
Originally Posted by DJDeath

Originally Posted by MrSparkle

A level 20 DD can kill a level 80+ SS4 and I don't see complaints about that, so why the whining?


Originally Posted by DJDeath

It's wrong that SS can die by just one salvo of HHs from a ship with a much lower level



You are the exception :) You are looking at the bigger picture. I'm trying to as well. Difference is, I'm not opposed to low level DD able to kill high level SS.

I am opposed to HH in it's current form though. It's spammed on surface ships too. Depthcharges should be the primary ASW weapon, but I think making them useable in a proper way requires more work than we can expect to see.