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  • Scouts be gone

    09. 28. 2011 13:34

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FalleNStaR

 Get rid of scouts. Fold them into fighters. Make the area of sight around the bb or other ship reasonably big enough as per technologies of the day, binoculars, telescope, sonar, radar. Now bbs and all other ships spot their own targets. CV's can now enjoy doing what CVs should do in this game use their fighters and bombers to help team but mostly just to actually have fun.

 

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 29. 2011 20:04


Khobai
"Ummm no Scouts were esential to the war for loacating enemy beyond the ships site range as it should be"

In WW2, someone standing on a battleship conning tower was easily capable of seeing farther than the battleships main guns could shoot. Scouts were essential for locating enemy ships, thats true, however scouts were not required for a battleship to shoot at another battleship. If a battleship was in gun range it was also in visual range.

"topic creator is most likely bb1 driver tired of beining outranged "

More likely hes a CV driver thats sick of getting yelled at for not scouting.

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 29. 2011 22:40


redrum
i wonder if he is related to jersey....instead of "COME at me Bro" its "Get Ridda your Scout Bro"....can i ask what spurred this somewhat idiotic thought to remove scouts...btw if FalleNStaR13 is your account name i can only say this...LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL...hopefully i didn't leave anything out...go back to your CV and quit complaining about scouts... I'll be sure to look for you on the Kaiser server to chase you down and give you my favorite gift to CVs..

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 07:08


FalleNStaR
Originally Posted by Khobai

"Ummm no Scouts were esential to the war for loacating enemy beyond the ships site range as it should be"

In WW2, someone standing on a battleship conning tower was easily capable of seeing farther than the battleships main guns could shoot. Scouts were essential for locating enemy ships, thats true, however scouts were not required for a battleship to shoot at another battleship. If a battleship was in gun range it was also in visual range.

"topic creator is most likely bb1 driver tired of beining outranged "

More likely hes a CV driver thats sick of getting yelled at for not scouting.


Bingo.

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 07:11


FalleNStaR
Originally Posted by redrum

i wonder if he is related to jersey....instead of "COME at me Bro" its "Get Ridda your Scout Bro"....can i ask what spurred this somewhat idiotic thought to remove scouts...btw if FalleNStaR13 is your account name i can only say this...LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL...hopefully i didn't leave anything out...go back to your CV and quit complaining about scouts... I'll be sure to look for you on the Kaiser server to chase you down and give you my favorite gift to CVs..


Never played on kaiser. Good job.

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 08:57


KinGWaR
Originally Posted by FalleNStaR

Originally Posted by KinGWaR

Originally Posted by FalleNStaR

The current use and game design of scouts screws up the game.


Please put the crack pipe down.


Maybe if you picked up more books you would have something of worth to offer.


Originally Posted by KinGWaR

Please put the crack pipe down.

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 09:35


nyerkovic
This is not a good idea. You are not thinking about what is good for all players.

Low level players rely on those big ships lack of sight in order to get close and attack them. Most of the low lvl tactics are counting on a ship to loose the scout or loose the fighter sight in order to pass through their blind spot and get in range.

If BB5s are able to see as far as their shells land, then no ship would be able to get close to them undetected and the whole map would be scouted. Yeah, great for CVs since they won't be yelled for scouting... also great for BB5s since they won't need to scout and would never be blind... but very bad for everyone else in the game because they will get 0 attack.

The only thing you would achieve with this is BB5s playing as BB5s and every other player in the game playing as an AA ship since its the only contribution you would be able to do. And then, I can predict a spike of threads about how my own teammates are TKing my airplanes.

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 10:16


redrum
Originally Posted by FalleNStaR

Originally Posted by redrum

i wonder if he is related to jersey....instead of "COME at me Bro" its "Get Ridda your Scout Bro"....can i ask what spurred this somewhat idiotic thought to remove scouts...btw if FalleNStaR13 is your account name i can only say this...LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL...hopefully i didn't leave anything out...go back to your CV and quit complaining about scouts... I'll be sure to look for you on the Kaiser server to chase you down and give you my favorite gift to CVs..


Never played on kaiser. Good job.

then according to the rankings you dont exsist or you got banned... but that doesnt make sense because you wouldnt be able to put anything on the forums.. So in a sense what you want done with scouts doesn't matter because you dont seem to have any record of experience in this.. and that being the case..We'll keep our scouts you can run without one like the many other handicapped in the game..Cheers

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 11:23


FalleNStaR
Originally Posted by nyerkovic

This is not a good idea. You are not thinking about what is good for all players.

Low level players rely on those big ships lack of sight in order to get close and attack them. Most of the low lvl tactics are counting on a ship to loose the scout or loose the fighter sight in order to pass through their blind spot and get in range.

If BB5s are able to see as far as their shells land, then no ship would be able to get close to them undetected and the whole map would be scouted. Yeah, great for CVs since they won't be yelled for scouting... also great for BB5s since they won't need to scout and would never be blind... but very bad for everyone else in the game because they will get 0 attack.

The only thing you would achieve with this is BB5s playing as BB5s and every other player in the game playing as an AA ship since its the only contribution you would be able to do. And then, I can predict a spike of threads about how my own teammates are TKing my airplanes.


How is it the role of a low level ship to take on a BB5? Its not. Your advocating a play-style based on "get in a hit to get my xp and die".

Low level who want to gun it out belong in Blitz. Low level who want to join GBs should accept escort rolls such as anti-aircraft, anti-sub, defending against other small craft and torpedo. Anyone whose ever taken a BB1 from Blitz to GBs knows about accepting your place and role on the NF food chain. There is a reason for all the different game modes and rules.

A BB5 or 6 should not be at the mercy of fog for half of their gun range. Their survival should be based on skill and not that they are blind because the split teamed them with a low level CV being fighter camped by US T4s or they themselves are being fighter camped and can't get a scout in the air. They have earned their gun range.

You want to talk about fairness to the low level players then include the low level CV players that are forced to be food every game. And if THEY try and get some bombing in for xp before they die they receive a tirade of insults for not "knowing THEIR role". There are PCVs and CV6s that can dominate the entire map by themselves.


Your advocating every game mode be played the same. What your advocating is what isn't good for all players or the game.

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 11:30


FalleNStaR
Originally Posted by redrum

Originally Posted by FalleNStaR

Originally Posted by redrum

i wonder if he is related to jersey....instead of "COME at me Bro" its "Get Ridda your Scout Bro"....can i ask what spurred this somewhat idiotic thought to remove scouts...btw if FalleNStaR13 is your account name i can only say this...LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL...hopefully i didn't leave anything out...go back to your CV and quit complaining about scouts... I'll be sure to look for you on the Kaiser server to chase you down and give you my favorite gift to CVs..


Never played on kaiser. Good job.

then according to the rankings you dont exsist or you got banned... but that doesnt make sense because you wouldnt be able to put anything on the forums.. So in a sense what you want done with scouts doesn't matter because you dont seem to have any record of experience in this.. and that being the case..We'll keep our scouts you can run without one like the many other handicapped in the game..Cheers


A miserable attempt to discredit me through pathetic sleuthing.

ad hominem: Latin for "to the man." An arguer who uses ad hominems attacks the person instead of the argument. Whenever an arguer cannot defend his position with evidence, facts or reason, he or she may resort to attacking an opponent either through: labeling, straw man arguments, name calling, offensive remarks and anger.

Quiet Redrum, the adults are talking now.

  • Re : Scouts be gone

    09. 30. 2011 12:39


RobtheMad
Bad idea.

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