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Tell me how a WWII destroyer or cruiser could realistically get a BB into its gun range without a BB noticing it?

Filling up a Z99 or Moltke with engies and then border-humping the fog isn't what I consider skill.]



Battle of Surigao Strait..read up..The PT boats and destroyers managed to save the day while further north the American BB and CV went and fell for a ruse.However..Get this...This is a GAME..not real life.Stop trying to inject your misguided and misinformed Naval knowledge into your argument.

I say stop ur complaining,

the way to win is scouting.
BW should be done after u have won the air and no more then 2 pilots.
sorry to say but the new generation of NF players are trying to push this BW thing and it has been proven over and over to not work.

this is a game and it is set up so cv's scout with there ftrs and if a bb is left crippled and able to get back from the main line then u should use ur bombers to finish him. however you should not be running BW every single launch and runninng locals to just protect yourself. selfish. I do however agree the Bb need to help kill the AA boats as well, but thats not always able to be done real early on because they stick behind there BB's. You have to wait for them to make a mistake and come out. Now as a cv player u can always bait a AA boat into coming further out then the rest of the BB's by just microing ur ftrs and bringing them out. Doing this will allow the BB's to have a shot at hitting there AA boats.

fallenstar i feel that u r just trying to push it into a BW cv play only. thats not how this game was designed to be played.

we play for fun but we also play to WIN.

In the first two pages of this post, the author has been called a "skill-less crack pipe smokeing idiot", yet the post remains un-locked, and yes, vieled insults are still insults.

Well I can tell you that in NF 90% of the time sight wins games. As a cv driver and a bb driver I can tell you I can see both sides of the discussion. 1st as a cv if you start out bombing odds are your BBs are going to be blind 30 seconds into the first part of the battle sad but true due to AA boats, fighters, or BB AA. This is suppose to be a team based game. CV gives sight to BBs and get control on the airspace above the enemy, BBs provide the main fight in the battle (though I wish they would shoot the AA boats when they get a chance) CVs are a support role if your averaging 140-150k attack in a CV every game then you were leaving your BBs blind most of the fight. But hey who cares right BBs have scouts they should use them if they want sight, problem is between fighting other BBs dodging AA fire and the other teams fighters and the fact that they only carry 5 or less unless it's IJN it's a challenge in itself but hey NF saw the problem and gave BBs T5 scouts but wait cvs don't like them because they are fast have great fuel and great sight and can stay out of range of AA fire and still provide sight for themselves so CVs can bomb their little heart out. Now the nerf hammer comes out again so the BBs are having to trust the cvs to at least help scout again.I have 1 of those evil PCVs I saw mentioned earlier in this thread and yes it's a US cv but I had to grind it there just like everyone else in the game. I'm sorry that T2 fighter can't hang with a T4 fighter but hey we are talking 40 lvl difference here but I still was able to scout for the team by controlling my fighters and staying out of the way of those higher lvl fighters, but due to scouting for my team I was able to lvl just fine in a FW cv.
BBs we aren't off the hook ing this one either, riding along and just watching AA boats chew up the friendly fighters isn't helping your cause. I know everyone wants to be the hero but you can't just shoot at the BBs only if you see a AA boat in range feel free to shoot it. That will give the Cvs an easier time scouting and maybe if everything works out they can still get some bombing in while providing sight. Too many BBs want to throw a bad game on CVs because they couldn't see for 10 seconds, but hey sorry if you can't see don't rush in.

Now for a suggestion, I know they won't do it but it sure would be nice if they counted a TK against friendly aa fire against planes too, I'm not saying against ships but planes yes I think I lose as many planes to friendly fire as well as enemy fire. I think I see on average 8 to 10 AA boat on each team each game I think they should be penilized for shooting down friendly planes. That would make them think twice before they shoot and cross BBs the whole game long.