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    11. 19. 2006 20:23

Rengokuy
Please Restickey!

Granted by Angus725 *dated March 24th, 2011*

---------------------------I was right-------------------------

Trees (to large to post, copy paste into your browser)
*ignore French and Italian DD lines, they are being changed
France - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/FrenchTree.jpg
Italy - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/ItalyTree.jpg
Russia - http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i211/Rengokuy/RussiaTree.jpg

*Updating ships to match the trees
Edit - Richelieu remodel to Jean Bart, not Gascagone
Edit - Bearn remodel to Joffre (as they have same capacity, one just trades
armor/armament
for speed)

-for people who want to know the capabilities of the guns, nearly all are found on
this website http://www.navweaps.com/


(boring intro section, scroll past to get to the ships and pretty pictures)
Short and Sweet, the French and Italians had good strong navies during WWII.
Both would be workable into the current game, ideally as their own nation, using
their own crews.

The French Navy would be a speedy one at that. Range would be rather long,
either equal to or a bit farther than most german guns at level. French DD's will be
some of the best in game, each with high damaging, fast firing guns. CL's and CA's
would be fast hard hitters that don't present much of a target, but they will be very
vulnrable to shell fire as they didn't mount much armor, a problem remidied in the
BB's. The French carriers would all be rather slow, their aircraft typical until higher
levels. BB's would all be above average, with long firing guns. (don't let the PBB
Dunkerque fool you, they had much better range than that)
Richelieu's guns had a longer range than the Iowa's.
All battleships would be capable of defending themselves from aircraft as well.

As for the Italian Navy, it would be a nation of Cruisers and AA guns. Heavy and Light
Cruisers would be the strongest of any nation in the game. DD's would be a trick to
use. All would have few mounts (usually only 2 or 3) but remain the same size as
other nations DD's. BB's would be typical until higher levels when they improve
drastically. Italian Carriers would be tend to have a little less plane space than their
counterparts, but be able to equip much heavier armament. Italian guns in general
had very long ranges, even over german guns. This was achieved at the grave price
of short barrel lives. The FCS system was very effective, tight salvos are to be
expected. Armor would be rated in giving about 20% stronger than the USN armor.

The Russian navy. Well, they will be very interesting indeed. Right from the beginning
they get very fast destroyers with considerably heavy armament. Russian cruisers
will be a bit more difficult to use. Their armament usually lighter than ships of the
same weight, their only advantages being tight salvos and small profiles. The
Russian battleships will be, for lack of better words, terrors to fight. The early on
ones based of the Gangut class, they are small targets with a lot of guns, the only
disadvantage being lack of AA defense, a problem remedied at the BB4 and 5 level,
the ships here built in practice with current US ones (iowa and montana). Even their
aircraft carriers are well armed, each making good speed and decent capacity. As for
their aircrafts, figters will be good, but bombs and torpedoes relativily weak.
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  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 11. 2006 12:32

Shrike
You'll notice the CVs are missing, they hadn't been added (Bouge is there as a
placeholder). And some of the class names I've used differ from yours.

Gloire is a La Galissonniere class.
Fleuret is a Le Hardi class. (went over DD classes in a previous post in this thread).
Volta is a Mogador class.

I've also added:

De Grasse was uncompleted, basically an AA cruiser. Colbert was a sister and is
now a museum ship in France.

Duguay-Trouin were older cruisers from the 1920s.

All of the CA classes seem to be neglected by you.

Added the Normandie and Lyon projects to the BB line.

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 11. 2006 11:56

Rengokuy
Wow, thank you so much (much better than mine he he, I did it in paint......) But yes,
this thread will continue to strive untill either A. I get booted out of college, or B. My
projects overwhelm me and I forget about Navyfield. Yay this is starting to take a shape!!

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 11. 2006 11:45

Shrike
Much to Roger's chagrin, this thread yet lives.

Anyways, here's a couple minutes of work in Visio for you Rengo. Ignore the R/T slot
sizes, but the counts are accurate. The dreadnought BBs have tons of T-slots
representing their anti-ship batteries, which NF generally does not model on BBs.

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7492/nfmntreeqw4.png

Copy and paste, it's a big image. 1427x1871

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 11. 2006 09:28

Rengokuy
*Updated French information and descriptions.

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 10. 2006 15:36

Rengokuy
If any of you are wondering what a colonial sloop is, think of it as a very fancy FF. It
would look nice, and pack quite a punch for her size. But she was really a display ship,
not ment for battle (henceforth the looking nice all the time) She could fight if need be,
but really, just for display.

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 10. 2006 11:42

Rengokuy
This is more an expense kind of thing. There is a lot more involved then that, but I'm
pretty sure thats a primary reason.
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  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 10. 2006 11:24

Demo639
I dont undestand why they cant reprogram the game or add ,ore things, lazy?.
money?. i know a lot of games that have done it whatever times takes. The dev
team is so slow.

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 10. 2006 09:50

Rengokuy
I can't. I can't give in to the ignorance and poor grammer.

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 10. 2006 03:42

Rogerborg
Join us. Give in the anger and the hate. Join Obst and me and together we will rule the
forums as... unrelated random Intarwebs people.

  • Re : French/Italian Ship Examples (incomplete)

    12. 09. 2006 20:32

Rengokuy
Admiral_Tee - Hmmmm, odd. Wonder why I have them classed as such. The Richelieu is indeed
a battleship, my sources state the Dunkerque as a Battleship as well. My definition of a
Battlecruiser is very simple. A battleship that sacrafices much of its armor for speed.
But thank you for pointing that out.

GodfireG_013 and Samy - Thank you ^.^

Rodgerbord - Of course I am. (but I'm really dying on the inside)