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  • Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 07. 2011 16:03


Thebarrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_63XG6QMN0 

something has to be said here.......

ps: the settup of the ships are in the Description of the video.... ps: the sub had 900 sd  

 

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 08. 2011 23:36


V2CxBongRipz
Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Vawlkus

And yet, for all that extra XP, people haven't learned how to dodge a torpedo. Interesting.


When those torps magically appear from right off your BB beam or aft, your dodging time is what, especially when your concentrating down range at the opposing BBs ?

How about give my BB the ability to go invisible and magically appear right next to you (while popping smoke) and unload a full broadside, kkthx. =.=

And to assume people do not know how to dodge is like me assuming you know how to play and sink crap in a BB, Mr.10,123/1326 . /s =.=



Since when do sub torpedoes have to hit you to sink you? I got sunk by a 2 gold SS2 today in a Gneisenau with a bb6 level crew AND belt/bulge without being hit by more then 2 torpedoes. After the first initial torps hit me I dodged the rest he sent after me but still got sunk. How does that even take skill to kill something while missing nearly every shot?

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 08. 2011 23:39


Tyron3
Originally Posted by musasyRo

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Tyron3

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog

IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT.

DISMISSED.


Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=

to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances...


Your implying there is an actual skill required to run a sub?




so if i play in pow and u in qv and i kill u what u blame? overpower ship lvl? or unskiled bigger lvl player?lvl ship is irelevant..player from keybord make diference

That is mentioned in what was quoted of my comment. but you should have to level to a higher level so that your ship can compete. ss4 is at around 77 and can trash bb6s (120) like shown in video to no tomorrow. And all that most bb6 can do is sit and wait for it to surface no matter how skilled he is (considering that most bb6 players dont run phh on T slots).

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 00:32


aingeal
its impossible to discuss sub balance in GD or anyway in NF.com.

As soon as you start talking about changing the RPS balance off SS->BB->DD->SS you get a massive "dont nerf meh!" reaction from SS players.

Then we point out the big fat nonsense of no hit nuking with splash, the fact at level DD1 spread PHH all over the place, and cannot kill SS4 anyway (normally those DD spot them, then some CA running them with high level crew shoot the SS. SS4 crit dive time are way too fast for the DC option anymore.

I would somewhat agree that KM torps have certain splash, proxy torp being their advantage. Not a 2 ship width splash radius tough. As it is, if I DD start running after my KM SS3, I wait till he is near the fast torp max range, then launch the rear torp without really aiming. Splash bust his OH and I get away.

Subs need a revision of their playstyle.

I would very much like to see them more as ninja ships able to sneak past enemy lines than a fictory BB6 nuke.

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 02:09


Vawlkus
Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Vawlkus

And yet, for all that extra XP, people haven't learned how to dodge a torpedo. Interesting.


When those torps magically appear from right off your BB beam or aft, your dodging time is what, especially when your concentrating down range at the opposing BBs ?

How about give my BB the ability to go invisible and magically appear right next to you (while popping smoke) and unload a full broadside, kkthx. =.=

And to assume people do not know how to dodge is like me assuming you know how to play and sink crap in a BB, Mr.10,123/1326 . /s =.=

Funny. When I AM playing my BBs, I seldom ever have that problem. Wonder why? Could it be because I keep subs last known positions in my mind as I fight enemy BBs? What an unusual concept.

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 02:36


ljsevern
Originally Posted by musasyRo

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Tyron3

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog

IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT.

DISMISSED.


Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=

to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances...


Your implying there is an actual skill required to run a sub?




so if i play in pow and u in qv and i kill u what u blame? overpower ship lvl? or unskiled bigger lvl player?lvl ship is irelevant..player from keybord make diference


Altsein evading another forum ban

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 04:08


musasyRo
Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by musasyRo

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Tyron3

Originally Posted by heatrr

Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=

to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances...


Your implying there is an actual skill required to run a sub?




so if i play in pow and u in qv and i kill u what u blame? overpower ship lvl? or unskiled bigger lvl player?lvl ship is irelevant..player from keybord make diference


Altsein evading another forum ban



reality is..u cant sunk 1 ss even u are using phh.no ofense but yors unskiled asw i see in many batle.if i remeber good last yor ha vs ah..i enjoy to read yor comments..all about ss

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 04:25


ljsevern
Originally Posted by musasyRo

Originally Posted by ljsevern

Originally Posted by musasyRo

Originally Posted by heatrr

Originally Posted by Tyron3

to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances...


Your implying there is an actual skill required to run a sub?




so if i play in pow and u in qv and i kill u what u blame? overpower ship lvl? or unskiled bigger lvl player?lvl ship is irelevant..player from keybord make diference


Altsein evading another forum ban



reality is..u cant sunk 1 ss even u are using phh.no ofense but yors unskiled asw i see in many batle.if i remeber good last yor ha vs ah..i enjoy to read yor comments..all about ss


Go away altsein.

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 04:56


SK_Bismarck
Originally Posted by ljsevern


Go away altsein.

If you have an evidence send support ticket - this is right way what you have to do if you have some doubt about breaking forum rules.


ljsevern and musasyRo please stop personal attacks.

If this topic will continue with this trend will be locked.

Thanks

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 05:12


SylverXI
Originally Posted by ljsevern

I love balanced ships. I don't care what nation. That is why I have 3 BB6's, countless high level CV crews and 5 x SS4's.

I do love it when people spell my name wrong and complain that I love/hate certain nation/classes, when they can't come up with a balance argument to prove me wrong.


5 x SS4's you say?

In one account I have 2 SS4 and take a closer look at this:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5673/rankingqk.png

It's obvious you don't have enough experience playing ss, nor playing against SS. Yet, you are here claiming to be the all knowing and that SS are overpowered.

If you put 1000 pounds on one end of a scale and a 1000 pounds more on the other side, it's still balanced. It doesn't have to be 10 pounds on one side and 10 pounds on the other.
Powerfull SS with powerfull ASW opens the chance for fleets to develop great strategies.(both offensively and defensively)

Ask BS on how to easily counter SS in a HA. Ask CS on how to use SS in a strategic way. If you remove SS's powerfull capabilities, you lower the fear factor it creates and prevent strategic use of the SS.

What do you ppl want?, an SS that can't even kill the prey(BB) it was designed to be able to kill?

DP/S so low a BB could survive 2 wave of torps and run away to safety?

DC are good, all a ff or dd needs to do is get in, dodge the torps and hump the SS. Once the SS is humped, the SS can critical all it wants, he will need to surface sometime. If it has HE flak, then it probably sacrificed it's ability to repair effectively and will probably die if it gets shot by a BB.

The SS that perform so good in GB always uses 120 crew. So the argument about level and exp. differences isn't as relevant as you make it out to be. SS4 also uses level 120 crew.

SS4 is currently the end game "ship" for the SS line. If you say SS4 needs a slight nerf so that SS5 fits in better, then yes.

Try the word ADAPT once in awhile instead of the word NERF...

  • Re : Ijn SS4 Test......

    08. 09. 2011 05:37


Cracko
Originally Posted by SylverXI


SS4 is currently the end game "ship" for the SS line. If you say SS4 needs a slight nerf so that SS5 fits in better, then yes.




Ya, that would be reasonable. And i think even SS drivers cant negate that. SS5s cant be much more powerfull than SS4s, so nerfing A BIT the SS4s can be a solution. But for saying that there is no need of crying the word overpowered anytime there is a thread with the word submarine on it. It seems like some people think with more drama on forums, bigger will be the nerfing of them ... lol.

Also there is a difference between a slight nerf on SS4 tier than a general nerf on subs. I would be sad if a general nerf on subs happen becausse i honestly think after the previous nerfs they dont need big changes and specially when most of the people that want them neferd didnt play even 100 battles with a sub, lol.



Originally Posted by SylverXI


Try the word ADAPT once in awhile instead of the word NERF...



You can try both. NERF the subs to ADAPT the game to myself. See. Its easy ^^

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