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Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 07. 2011 16:03
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 18:44
heatrr
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Level 77 Ship = 4,452,450 exp
Level 120 ship = 46,784,550 exp
Overpowered? Yes.
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT. DISMISSED.
Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 18:49
heatrr
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Originally Posted by Vawlkus
And yet, for all that extra XP, people haven't learned how to dodge a torpedo. Interesting.
When those torps magically appear from right off your BB beam or aft, your dodging time is what, especially when your concentrating down range at the opposing BBs ? How about give my BB the ability to go invisible and magically appear right next to you (while popping smoke) and unload a full broadside, kkthx. =.= And to assume people do not know how to dodge is like me assuming you know how to play and sink crap in a BB, Mr.10,123/1326 . /s =.=
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 18:50
Tyron3
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Originally Posted by WarmSeas
The word nerf is a never ending subject, I remember back around 05 when CVs were mad because DDs could use AA to shoot there planes down. I remember a player I think his name was Cgod or something like that (best L2 player I ever saw) when he did get sunk he just said oh well and went on to the next game.
I seen some good ideals posted here but even if they are put into the game the NERF word will just move to something else. Try the word ADAPT. you will have more fun.
trust me mate we (makers of the video) arnt the complainers here, in fact the fleet we are in (NSA NavyField Slackers Assocation) probaly says it all. We were just bored of grinding lol. Personaly i like strengths and weaknesses and there is a balance between them if you consider the big 4 nations, KM IJN UK USN BB wise. Also a pretty decent balance cv wise if you exclude USN fps which seem to kill everything. But the SS is still unrealisitc and ruins the balance of battle. Ive seen on youtube video where jolly rogers fleet decided to rush a room full of ss4s, almost won the harbor tile in that HA. Destroyed most all the bb6s (Vets bb6s) and dodged HH which we all on kaiser server know VetS knows their HH angles and took out half of the ss4s as they fired their first torp salvo cause they didnt crit dive trying to aviod em. but still the other half killed most their bb6s. Btw to see that video its on their website www.jollyrogersfleet.com If there isnt a problem there then we should all toss our bbs and grind SS lines.
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 18:57
Tyron3
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Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Level 77 Ship = 4,452,450 exp
Level 120 ship = 46,784,550 exp
Overpowered? Yes.
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT. DISMISSED.
Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=
to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances, in fact ive seen a guam trash a nebby because of skill diffrences but with ss you are defensless in a bb for the most part. aside from the few that have phh and even then they are helpless some times. a total nub in a sub can take out a bb and teh uber skilled bb is basicaly helpless.
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 19:00
heatrr
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Originally Posted by Tyron3
Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Level 77 Ship = 4,452,450 exp
Level 120 ship = 46,784,550 exp
Overpowered? Yes.
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT. DISMISSED.
Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=
to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances...
Your implying there is an actual skill required to run a sub?
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 19:09
Tyron3
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Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by Tyron3
Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Level 77 Ship = 4,452,450 exp
Level 120 ship = 46,784,550 exp
Overpowered? Yes.
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT. DISMISSED.
Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=
to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances...
Your implying there is an actual skill required to run a sub?
Please read the whole comment and not edit it out makeing it as if i said something i didnt, reminds me of fox news lol. But i did say that a nub sub can trash a bb, not that all subs are nubs or that i havnt seen extreme great subs that killed half a team till he/she ran out of torps.
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 21:02
WarmSeas
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Originally Posted by Tyron3
Originally Posted by WarmSeas
The word nerf is a never ending subject, I remember back around 05 when CVs were mad because DDs could use AA to shoot there planes down. I remember a player I think his name was Cgod or something like that (best L2 player I ever saw) when he did get sunk he just said oh well and went on to the next game.
I seen some good ideals posted here but even if they are put into the game the NERF word will just move to something else. Try the word ADAPT. you will have more fun.
trust me mate we (makers of the video) arnt the complainers here, in fact the fleet we are in (NSA NavyField Slackers Assocation) probaly says it all. We were just bored of grinding lol. Personaly i like strengths and weaknesses and there is a balance between them if you consider the big 4 nations, KM IJN UK USN BB wise. Also a pretty decent balance cv wise if you exclude USN fps which seem to kill everything. But the SS is still unrealisitc and ruins the balance of battle. Ive seen on youtube video where jolly rogers fleet decided to rush a room full of ss4s, almost won the harbor tile in that HA. Destroyed most all the bb6s (Vets bb6s) and dodged HH which we all on kaiser server know VetS knows their HH angles and took out half of the ss4s as they fired their first torp salvo cause they didnt crit dive trying to aviod em. but still the other half killed most their bb6s. Btw to see that video its on their website www.jollyrogersfleet.com If there isnt a problem there then we should all toss our bbs and grind SS lines.
Tyron3 I wasn't referring to your video in my post, I enjoyed it. I stopped playing NF for close to 2 years and have only been back about 2 months but I look on the forms and it's the same old stuff. Only the names of the FW has changed so there was no disrespect intended about your video. I will save what I think about SS for the test form like the Mod ask.
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 23:02
Tyron3
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Originally Posted by WarmSeas
Originally Posted by Tyron3
Originally Posted by WarmSeas
The word nerf is a never ending subject, I remember back around 05 when CVs were mad because DDs could use AA to shoot there planes down. I remember a player I think his name was Cgod or something like that (best L2 player I ever saw) when he did get sunk he just said oh well and went on to the next game.
I seen some good ideals posted here but even if they are put into the game the NERF word will just move to something else. Try the word ADAPT. you will have more fun.
trust me mate we (makers of the video) arnt the complainers here, in fact the fleet we are in (NSA NavyField Slackers Assocation) probaly says it all. We were just bored of grinding lol. Personaly i like strengths and weaknesses and there is a balance between them if you consider the big 4 nations, KM IJN UK USN BB wise. Also a pretty decent balance cv wise if you exclude USN fps which seem to kill everything. But the SS is still unrealisitc and ruins the balance of battle. Ive seen on youtube video where jolly rogers fleet decided to rush a room full of ss4s, almost won the harbor tile in that HA. Destroyed most all the bb6s (Vets bb6s) and dodged HH which we all on kaiser server know VetS knows their HH angles and took out half of the ss4s as they fired their first torp salvo cause they didnt crit dive trying to aviod em. but still the other half killed most their bb6s. Btw to see that video its on their website www.jollyrogersfleet.com If there isnt a problem there then we should all toss our bbs and grind SS lines.
Tyron3 I wasn't referring to your video in my post, I enjoyed it. I stopped playing NF for close to 2 years and have only been back about 2 months but I look on the forms and it's the same old stuff. Only the names of the FW has changed so there was no disrespect intended about your video. I will save what I think about SS for the test form like the Mod ask.
It wasnt the video that was what i was defending. In fact the video only took 15 mins to film and upload lol, and i doubt we will ever win a grammy but what i was defending was that there are the complainers that blame everything and Nerf this Buff that, i have a qv i want it buffed so i can rule the world of NF muahaha type of people but we arnt doing that here. Also is it possible to most this thread to the test server discussion area? I really think that some comments and the video it self should be shown there.
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 23:10
musasyRo
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Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by Tyron3
Originally Posted by heatrr
Originally Posted by Ultra_Dog
Originally Posted by ljsevern
Level 77 Ship = 4,452,450 exp
Level 120 ship = 46,784,550 exp
Overpowered? Yes.
IRRELEVANT ARGUMENT. DISMISSED.
Irrelevant argument my ass. This is a level based game. Deal with it. =.=
to add to this, a bb4 should be able to kill a bb6 lets say qv for example because of skill differances...
Your implying there is an actual skill required to run a sub?
so if i play in pow and u in qv and i kill u what u blame? overpower ship lvl? or unskiled bigger lvl player?lvl ship is irelevant..player from keybord make diference
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Re : Ijn SS4 Test......
08. 08. 2011 23:13
Dersico
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Just going to state some facts that I believe are true because I completely TOODAMNLONG'd this thread
Dodging torps = running away from the battle line = one less ship on the friendly side
One less ship = less firepower (especially if that ship is the only BB5 on your team..)
I'd say that's a problem, even if it's just the reputation of an SS torps that makes people flee. In fact, people flee from an SS1 :p
Adversary ship on the friendly side = vision for the adversary = fighters and AA are useless for blinding
No ability to blind = sailors wave around oversized lighthouses
If an SS designed for scouting comes around or if any SS decides to save torps then a team could potentially be scouted without knowing. This is a good tactic, but it's overpowered anyways because nobody carries around sonarmen anymore and because we're playing NF.
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